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[SteveB]

Since they disagree considerably, where did you get that idea?

John 8:32
20cNT and you find out the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.”

ABP καιG2532 And γνώσεσθεG1097 you shall know τηνG3588 the αλήθειανG225 truth, καιG2532 and ηG3588 the αλήθειαG225 truth ελευθερώσειG1659 shall free υμάςG1473 you.

AKJV And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


Alford καὶ G2532 γνώσεσθε G1097 τὴν G3588 ἀλήθειαν G225, καὶ G2532 ἡ G2228 ἀλήθεια G225 ἐλευθερώσει G1659 ὑμᾶς G4771.

ASV and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

BBE And you will have knowledge of what is true, and that will make you free.

BIB καὶ (And) γνώσεσθε (you will know) τὴν (the) ἀλήθειαν (truth), καὶ (and) ἡ (the) ἀλήθεια (truth) ἐλευθερώσει (will set free) ὑμᾶς (you).”

Bishops And ye shall knowe the trueth, and the trueth shall make you free.

BLB And you will know the truth, and the truth will set free you.”

BSB Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

Byz2005++ καὶ G2532 CONJ γνώσεσθε G1097 V-FDI-2P τὴν G3588 T-ASF ἀλήθειαν G225 N-ASF, καὶ G2532 CONJ ἡ G3588 T-NSF ἀλήθεια G225 N-NSF ἐλευθερώσει G1659 V-FAI-3S ὑμᾶς G4771 P-2AP.

Coverdale and ye shall knowe the trueth, and the trueth shal make you fre.

Darby and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

DRC And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

EasyEnglish And you will know what is true. And what is true will make you free.’

EBR And ye shall know the truth, and, the truth, shall make you free.

EMTV And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

ERV and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Geneva And shall know the trueth, and the trueth shall make you free.

Great and ye shall knowe the trueth: and the trueth shall make you free.

GRV και G2532 CONJ γνωσεσθε G1097 V-FDI-2P την G3588 T-ASF αληθειαν G225 N-ASF και G2532 CONJ η G3588 T-NSF αληθεια G225 N-NSF ελευθερωσει G1659 V-FAI-3S υμας G5209 P-2AP

GRVx καιG2532CONJ καί γνωσεσθεG1097V-FDI-2P γινώσκω τηνG3588T-ASF ὁ αληθειανG225N-ASF ἀλήθεια καιG2532CONJ καί ηG3588T-NSF ὁ αληθειαG225N-NSF ἀλήθεια ελευθερωσειG1659V-FAI-3S ἐλευθερόω υμαςG5209P-2AP σύ

HB 8:32 וְתֵדְעוּ אֶת הָאֱמֶת וְהָאֱמֶת תְּשַׁחְרֵר אֶתְכֶם."

HEBm וידעתם את האמת והאמת תשימכם לבני חורין׃

HGPD 8:32 καὶ γνώσεσθε τὴν ἀλήθειαν καὶ ἡ ἀλήθεια ἐλευθερώσει ὑμᾶς.

HNV You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” Psa 119:45 1

ISV And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

JMNT "and you will progressively come to know the Truth (or: Reality; that which is unsealed, open and without concealment) by intimate experience, and the Truth (Reality) will progressively liberate and make (or: set) you free!"

KJ2000 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

KJV And G2532 ye shall know G1097 the truth G225, and G2532 the truth G225 shall make G1659 you G5209 free G1659.

KJVLite And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

LEB and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

LHB And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

LOGOS And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

Matthew and shal know the truth, and the truthe shall make you free.

MKJV1962 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

MLV and you° will know the truth and the truth will be making you° free.

NET and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

NHEB You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” q

NHEB-AN You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” f

NHEB-JE You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” m

NHEB-JM You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” e

NHEB-ME You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” f

NHEB-YHWH You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.” q

OEBcw and you find out the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

OEBus and you find out the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

OGNT καὶG2532CONJ kai ke and γνώσεσθεG1097V-FDI-2P gnōsesthe gnosesθe to know τὴνG3588T-ASF tēn tiyn the ἀλήθειανG225N-ASF alētheian aliyθiyan truth, καὶG2532CONJ kai ke and ἡG3588T-NSF hē iy the ἀλήθειαG225N-NSF alētheia aliyθiya truth ἐλευθερώσειG1659V-FAI-3S eleutherōsei elefθerosiy to set free ὑμᾶςG4771P-2AP hymas iymas you.

OGNT-NET and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
° *c141 → c140 [ conj[καὶ] P[γνώσεσθε] C[τὴν ἀλήθειαν,] ]
° *c142 → c141 [ conj[καὶ] S[ἡ ἀλήθεια] P[ἐλευθερώσει] C[ὑμᾶς.] ]

OGNTa καὶ γνώσεσθε τὴν ἀλήθειαν, καὶ ἡ ἀλήθεια ἐλευθερώσει ὑμᾶς.

OGNTbe ⚐καὶ γνώσεσθε τὴν ἀλήθειαν, ⚐καὶ ⊕ἡ ἀλήθεια ἐλευθερώσει ὑμᾶς.
καὶAnd γνώσεσθεyou will know τὴνthe ἀλήθειανtruth,
And you will know the truth,
Then you will know the truth,
καὶand ἡthe ἀλήθειαtruth ἐλευθερώσειwill set free ὑμᾶςyou.
and the truth will set free you.”
and the truth will set you free.”
OGNTd °° R1καὶ γνώσεσθε τὴν ἀλήθειαν,
° R5καὶ R6ἡ ἀλήθεια ἐλευθερώσει ὑμᾶς.

OGNTi ⚐καὶ and γνώσεσθε to know τὴν the ἀλήθειαν truth, ⚐καὶ and ἡ the ἀλήθεια truth ἐλευθερώσει to set free ὑμᾶς you.

OGNTii καὶ G2532 CONJand γνώσεσθε G1097 V-FDI-2Pto know τὴν G3588 T-ASFthe/this/who ἀλήθειαν G225 N-ASFtruth, καὶ G2532 CONJand ἡ G3588 T-NSFthe/this/who ἀλήθεια G225 N-NSFtruth ἐλευθερώσει G1659 V-FAI-3Sto set free ὑμᾶς G4771 P-2APyou.

OGNTk και γνωϲεϲθε την αληθειαν, και η αληθεια ελευθερωϲει υμαϲ.

OGNTla
° *8:32.w1-w4
8:32.w1
conjunctionw1
head
καὶ
and8:32.w2
predicatorw2
head
γνώσεσθε
to know8:32.w3-w4
complementw3
specifier
τὴν
thew4
head
ἀλήθειαν
truth
° *8:32.w5-w9
8:32.w5
conjunctionw5
head
καὶ
and8:32.w6-w7
subjectw6
specifier
ἡ
thew7
head
ἀλήθεια
truth8:32.w8
predicatorw8
head
ἐλευθερώσει
to set free8:32.w9
complementw9
head
ὑμᾶς
you
OGNTnet and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
°°καὶ γνώσεσθε τὴν ἀλήθειαν,
°καὶ ⊕ἡ ἀλήθεια ἐλευθερώσει ὑμᾶς.

OTGNT
° *8:32.w1-w4
8:32.w1
conjunctionw1
head
καὶ
and8:32.w2
predicatorw2
head
γνώσεσθε
to know8:32.w3-w4
complementw3
specifier
τὴν
thew4
head
ἀλήθειαν
truth
° *8:32.w5-w9
8:32.w5
conjunctionw5
head
καὶ
and8:32.w6-w7
subjectw6
specifier
ἡ
thew7
head
ἀλήθεια
truth8:32.w8
predicatorw8
head
ἐλευθερώσει
to set free8:32.w9
complementw9
head
ὑμᾶς
you
RNKJV And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

SLT And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

T4T Then you will know God's truth, and as a result of your believing his truth, he [PRS] will free you from being controlled by the one who has made you his slaves.”

Tischendorf καὶ G2532 conj γνώσεσθε G1097 v-fdi-2p τὴν G3588 t-asf ἀλήθειαν, G225 n-asf καὶ G2532 conj ἡ G3588 t-nsf ἀλήθεια G225 n-nsf ἐλευθερώσει G1659 v-fai-3s ὑμᾶς. G5210 p-2ap

TR και G2532 CONJ γνωσεσθε G1097 V-FDI-2P την G3588 T-ASF αληθειαν G225 N-ASF και G2532 CONJ η G3588 T-NSF αληθεια G225 N-NSF ελευθερωσει G1659 V-FAI-3S υμας G5209 P-2AP

TRa καὶ G2532 CONJ γνώσεσθε G1097 V-FDI-2P τὴν G3588 T-ASF ἀλήθειαν G225 N-ASF, καὶ G2532 CONJ ἡ G3588 T-NSF ἀλήθεια G225 N-NSF ἐλευθερώσει G1659 V-FAI-3S ὑμᾶς G5209 P-2AP.

TS2009 and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

Tyndale and shall knowe the trueth: and the trueth shall make you free.

UKJV And all of you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

ULB and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

VulgClem et cognoscetis veritatem, et veritas liberabit vos.

VW And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

WEB You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

WEBBE You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

WEBBME You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

WEBME You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

Webster And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Wesley And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

WHNU και G2532 CONJ γνωσεσθε G1097 V-FDI-2P την G3588 T-ASF αληθειαν G225 N-ASF και G2532 CONJ η G3588 T-NSF αληθεια G225 N-NSF ελευθερωσει G1659 V-FAI-3S υμας G5209 P-2AP

WMTH and you shall know the Truth, and the Truth will make you free.«

WMTH-JM and you shall know the Truth, and the Truth will make you free."

WMTH-ME and you shall know the Truth, and the Truth will make you free."

WPNT and you will know the Truth, and the Truth will make you free.” note

Wycliffe and ye schulen knowe the treuthe, and the treuthe schal make you fre.

Wycliffe-Modern and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

YLT and the truth shall make you free.'

 

[SteveB]

Since they disagree considerably, where did you get that idea?

Ok.

I've given you over one hundred and twenty different translations, including Greek and Latin.

Please show us how they disagree considerably.

 

[Our Lord's God]

oh by all means.
Pray do tell!

Here are 12 translations of John 8:32.
Please show me how they "disagree considerably." I'll be back with more in a little bit.

John 8:32
(ABP+) AndG2532 you shall knowG1097 theG3588 truth,G225 andG2532 theG3588 truthG225 shall freeG1659 you.G1473
(Greek ABP+) καιG2532 γνωσεσθεG1097 τηνG3588 αληθειανG225 καιG2532 ηG3588 αληθειαG225 ελευθερωσειG1659 υμαςG1473
(Greek NT INT+)
και
G2532
CONJ
καί
and
γνωσεσθε
G1097
V-FDI-2P
γινώσκω
to know
την
G3588
T-ASF
ὁ
the
αληθειαν
G225
N-ASF
ἀλήθεια
truth
και
G2532
CONJ
καί
and
η
G3588
T-NSF
ὁ
the
αληθεια
G225
N-NSF
ἀλήθεια
truth
ελευθερωσει
G1659
V-FAI-3S
ἐλευθερόω
to liberate
υμας
G5209
P-2AP
σύ
you
(Greek NT TR) και γνωσεσθε την αληθειαν και η αληθεια ελευθερωσει υμας
(Hebrew NT DD) וידעתם את האמת והאמת תוציאכם לחרות׃
(KJV) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
(KJV+) AndG2532 ye shall knowG1097 theG3588 truth,G225 andG2532 theG3588 truthG225 shall make you free.G1659 G5209
(WEB) You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
(WEBA) You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”

We aren't talking about a verse. We are talking about a 66 book canon.

 

[SteveB]

We aren't talking about a verse. We are talking about a 66 book canon.

You don't get to play games here.

Step up or step off.
I just gave you one example to make it easier for you.

There are 31,102 verses I can do this with.
Do you really want to walk this dog?


Addendum

As a matter of fact, you pick a few verses where you think the greatest difference between them are, and I'll provide the different translations of them.

Come on. This is your opportunity.

 

[Our Lord's God]

You don't get to play games here.

Step up or step off.
I just gave you one example to make it easier for you.

There are 31,102 verses I can do this with.
Do you really want to walk this dog?

Sure you go right ahead.

Start with the KJV, NIV, NET, Amplified, Young's Literal, the Message, and Living Bible versions of John 1:1-5.

Just to offer an easy one ferya.

 

[balshan]

Sure you go right ahead.

Start with the KJV, NIV, NET, Amplified, Young's Literal, the Message, and Living Bible versions of John 1:1-5.

Just to offer an easy one ferva

 

[balshan]

Parallel Verses
NIV
The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

NLT
The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it.

English standard version
The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

New American standard bible
The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

KJB
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Holman Christian Bible
That light shines in the darkness, yet the darkness did not overcome it.

ISV
And the light shines on in the darkness, and the darkness has never put it out.
Net
And the light shines on in the darkness, but the darkness has not mastered it.

ASV
And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.

English revised
And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.

Your response has shown that you comprehend not.

Young's
and the light in the darkness did shine, and the darkness did not perceive it.

John 1:5 Parallel: And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

biblehub.com

 

[SteveB]

Parallel Strong's
Berean Study Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Young's Literal Translation
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;

Holman Christian Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New American Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Parallel Verses
New International Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New Living Translation
In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

English Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

New American Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

International Standard Version
In the beginning, the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God.

NET Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God.

American Standard Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

English Revised Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Young's Literal Translation
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;

 

[SteveB]

Parallel Strong's
Berean Study Bible
He was with God in the beginning.

Young's Literal Translation
this one was in the beginning with God;

Holman Christian Standard Bible
He was with God in the beginning.

New American Standard Bible
He was in the beginning with God.

King James Bible
The same was in the beginning with God.
Parallel Verses
New International Version
He was with God in the beginning.

New Living Translation
He existed in the beginning with God.

English Standard Version
He was in the beginning with God.

New American Standard Bible
He was in the beginning with God.

King James Bible
The same was in the beginning with God.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
He was with God in the beginning.

International Standard Version
He existed in the beginning with God.

NET Bible
The Word was with God in the beginning.

American Standard Version
The same was in the beginning with God.

English Revised Version
The same was in the beginning with God.

Young's Literal Translation
this one was in the beginning with God;

 

[SteveB]

Parallel Strong's
Berean Study Bible
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.

Young's Literal Translation
all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
All things were created through Him, and apart from Him not one thing was created that has been created.

New American Standard Bible
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

King James Bible
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Parallel Verses
New International Version
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

New Living Translation
God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him.

English Standard Version
All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

New American Standard Bible
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

King James Bible
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
All things were created through Him, and apart from Him not one thing was created that has been created.

International Standard Version
Through him all things were made, and apart from him nothing was made that has been made.

NET Bible
All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created.

American Standard Version
All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made.

English Revised Version
All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made.

Young's Literal Translation
all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened.

 

[SteveB]

Parallel Strong's
Berean Study Bible
In Him was life, and that life was the light of men.

Young's Literal Translation
In him was life, and the life was the light of men,

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Life was in Him, and that life was the light of men.

New American Standard Bible
In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.

King James Bible
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Parallel Verses
New International Version
In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.

New Living Translation
The Word gave life to everything that was created, and his life brought light to everyone.

English Standard Version
In him was life, and the life was the light of men.

New American Standard Bible
In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.

King James Bible
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Life was in Him, and that life was the light of men.

International Standard Version
In him was life, and that life brought light to humanity.

NET Bible
In him was life, and the life was the light of mankind.

American Standard Version
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

English Revised Version
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Young's Literal Translation
In him was life, and the life was the light of men,

​

 

[SteveB]

Parallel Strong's
Berean Study Bible
The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Young's Literal Translation
and the light in the darkness did shine, and the darkness did not perceive it.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
That light shines in the darkness, yet the darkness did not overcome it.

New American Standard Bible
The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

King James Bible
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Parallel Verses
New International Version
The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

New Living Translation
The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it.

English Standard Version
The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

New American Standard Bible
The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

King James Bible
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
That light shines in the darkness, yet the darkness did not overcome it.

International Standard Version
And the light shines on in the darkness, and the darkness has never put it out.

NET Bible
And the light shines on in the darkness, but the darkness has not mastered it.

American Standard Version
And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.

English Revised Version
And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.

Young's Literal Translation
and the light in the darkness did shine, and the darkness did not perceive it.

​

 

[SteveB]

Sure you go right ahead.

Start with the KJV, NIV, NET, Amplified, Young's Literal, the Message, and Living Bible versions of John 1:1-5.

Just to offer an easy one ferya.

Ok, all 5 verses.

So, you work through them, and show us how they differ from identical verses, with different translations.

 

[SteveB]

Oh, and since I do indeed see different words, you pick out the words which you think change the meaning of the verses, and I'll do a synonym check, posting all the synonyms for those words. Let's see if those are actually game changes, like your post said--- considerably different.

 

[SteveB]

Sure you go right ahead.

Start with the KJV, NIV, NET, Amplified, Young's Literal, the Message, and Living Bible versions of John 1:1-5.

Just to offer an easy one ferya.

Well, we know you're here this morning.
So, why don't you finish this discussion, instead of ignoring it.

 

[robycop3]

As i said before, many Hebrew, Aramaic, & Koine Greek words have multiple English meanings, & context doesn't always indicate the best of those meanings in Scripture. Thus, different translators use different meanings.

None of that is lost on GOD. Using several translations gives us a better overview of Scripture & gives the Holy Spirit more to work with as He teaches us.

 

[organgrinder]

Well, we know you're here this morning.
So, why don't you finish this discussion, instead of ignoring it.

Will be interesting to see if the person replies.

 

[SteveB]

Will be interesting to see if the person replies.

It's pretty clear that they ran out.

 

[JDS]

Salvation from sin is in the person of Jesus Christ and to be saved does not take the physical presence of any bible. However, in the absence of a bible it does takes a faithful preacher of the gospel of Jesus Christ who has been saved himself, and knows it, to get anyone else saved. There are some things to understand and the appeal of the scriptures and of God through the preacher is to the fact that every man is a sinner and one's own conscience will condemn him and convict him that he is one. For instance, a man instinctively knows it is wrong to sneak into his neighbors field at night and steal his corn while no one is looking. He knows this whether he has ever even heard of God or the bible or knows anything about the ten commandments where we are commanded not to steal. What this person does not know is that there is one God in heaven who has created all things for his pleasure and he is a totally holy and righteous and just, albeit a merciful and forgiving God and that all men must answer to him for the deeds they do that do not please him. The wage of one single act of disobedience to him, who provides all things to us for life and peace and pleasure, is separation from him forever, unless he himself finds a way to remedy the problem of sin that we all have. And he has done just that by becoming a man and living according to all the pleasure of God and then offering his perfect life as a ransom to buy back all those who are lost. The price was his life for ours. It, his life, is offered as the gift of God if we will take it. The proof that God accepted his sacrifice and that he was perfect is that he rose from the dead after 3 days and was seen of chosen men for 40 days before he ascended back to heaven and who then wrote about it By taking it we acknowledge our own sins and agree with God that our only reconciliation with him is through the sacrifice of his Son, Jesus Christ and our own attitude towards sin and disobedience is now in line with his and our efforts will be to please him from that point on. Reconciliation is now mutual between God and the sinner and the righteousness and perfection of Jesus Christ is added to our account. The gift of God that is provided for all men through Jesus Christ is himself a person called Life and is provided for all whether it is accepted or not by guilty sinners and God will turn down no one who comes to him in the name of Jesus Christ. Those who do not come while they are living will be eternally separated from God in the only place he has ever created where he has chosen not to be, the lake of fire, which he calls the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. Second death? The first death, separation of soul and body, and the second death the eternal separation of soul and body from the presence of God. What will men choose? The eternal presence of God through faith in Jesus Christ or the eternal separation of God. It is a choice.

John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 4:42
And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

The problem is not that people do not have enough bibles but that they do not believe the ones they have. This is why they keep producing more bibles. The more different ways of salvation they come up with the more bibles they need. They will keep producing more bibles because the testimony of God is in his own chosen words. If one has two bibles that are different he then is forced to make a choice whether one or both or neither is the word of God and is his testimony. It is confusion. Confusion is constantly on display in these forums.

Hopefully some of the posters on this board are born again because they believe the gospel of Jesus Christ but by their own testimony there are some who do not and are deceived. I have heard what they have said about God, Jesus Christ, and the Spirit and it is not what God says. New bibles have not helped them. They are just as lost as if they had a KJV and did not believe the words in it. What difference does it make if a person has a hundred bibles and does not believe any of them concerning what it takes to be saved from his sins? They have been taught by men like RoboCop and others that to have the actual words through which God wants to reveal himself and his ways is an idea to be mocked because it cannot be achieved. The attacks are relentless.

Most people who are anti KJV because of the words are not pro modern translations because of the words in them They will not tell anyone that those words are the words of God any more than the words in the KJV are the words of God. They believe the thoughts of God are to be interpreted by the translators and written down on paper in their own words. This is akin to inspiration if not actual inspiration and only a very few people have the ability to do it. These translators will speak as if their works are not perfect but none of them or no new modern version followers will admit to a single error in any bible but the KJV. It is the thoughts and ideas of God that are inspired to all the rest of us. It is the elevation of men.

The bottom line is that these people believes in a broad way to God. There are going to be some translators burning in the fire I believe. I think the word of God is far more serious than some of you people teach it to be.

Below is an opportunity to prove me wrong. Tell us what is your favorite bible and list the worst three errors in them.

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[JDS]

You don't get to play games here.

Step up or step off.
I just gave you one example to make it easier for you.

There are 31,102 verses I can do this with.
Do you really want to walk this dog?


Addendum

As a matter of fact, you pick a few verses where you think the greatest difference between them are, and I'll provide the different translations of them.

Come on. This is your opportunity.

Are you claiming perfection for all these translations?