I can't wait for this to happen. What could go wrong?

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Air Vax — mRNA Delivered Straight Into The Lungs – No Jab Needed.​


Researchers have developed an airborne mRNA vaccine offering a vehicle by which to rapidly vaccinate the masses without their knowledge or consent.

A team from Yale University has developed a new airborne method for delivering mRNA right to your lungs. The method has also been used to vaccinate mice intranasally, “opening the door for human testing in the near future.”......continue to article

I can't wait for this to happen. What could go wrong?

Let's say you don't want to be sprayed with the government sponsored forced doses of nanoparticles...do you need to stop breathing? Will wearing a mask be effective?

The article continues with....By releasing the vaccine in the air, there’s no need to inject each person individually — which is not only time-consuming but difficult if an individual objects to the shot. This isn’t the case with an airborne vaccine, which can be released into the air without consent or even the public’s knowledge.

Rev 6:7 When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” 8 And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider’s name was Death, and Hades followed him. And they were given authority over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by wild beasts of the earth.
 
Have you never seen a dog being given a kennel cough vaccination intranasally? This is what is being tested. Nothing more.
 
CrowCross said:
Yes, nothing to see here...says Michael R2....move along.
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You seem to be imagining an aerosylized vaccine being released on the unsuspecting public, but how would that even be done effectively as such a vaccine would dissipate rapidly and would therefore require close contact with the patient.
 
vibise said:
You seem to be imagining an aerosylized vaccine being released on the unsuspecting public, but how would that even be done effectively as such a vaccine would dissipate rapidly and would therefore require close contact with the patient.
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Drones.
 
Michael R2 said:
Have you never seen a dog being given a kennel cough vaccination intranasally? This is what is being tested. Nothing more.
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When the repeal of sodomy laws were under discussion, opponents argued that "this is gonna lead to gay marriage" and people like you were assuring them "that is totally ridiculous." Now, I'm not for sodomy laws. But I think you see the point.

The point being that people on your side of these discussions lie about their ultimate intent, right up to the point that they win, at which moment they immediately tell the truth. "Did we say this train wasn't going to the death-camp? What a silly mistake!"
 
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Thistle said:
When the repeal of sodomy laws were under discussion, opponents argued that "this is gonna lead to gay marriage" and people like you were assuring them "that is totally ridiculous." Now, I'm not for sodomy laws. But I think you see the point.

The point being that people on your side of these discussions lie about their ultimate intent, right up to the point that they win, at which moment they immediately tell the truth. "Did we say this train wasn't going to the death-camp? What a silly mistake!"
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Right. And how do you propose making the vaccine sufficiently stable for this scenario to be even remotely plausible?
 
Michael R2 said:
Right. And how do you propose making the vaccine sufficiently stable for this scenario to be even remotely plausible?
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I can't explain how the technology that makes an iPhone work comes together. Nevertheless they manage to put it together with slave labor from Chinese Uighurs. By the way, how is the workmanship of the slaves who made your phone? And, how does it feel to be on the wrong side of history?
 
Thistle said:
I can't explain how the technology that makes an iPhone work comes together. Nevertheless they manage to put it together with slave labor from Chinese Uighurs. By the way, how is the workmanship of the slaves who made your phone? And, how does it feel to be on the wrong side of history?
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Thanks for the useless non-sequitur.
 
Thistle said:
When the repeal of sodomy laws were under discussion, opponents argued that "this is gonna lead to gay marriage" and people like you were assuring them "that is totally ridiculous." Now, I'm not for sodomy laws. But I think you see the point.

The point being that people on your side of these discussions lie about their ultimate intent, right up to the point that they win, at which moment they immediately tell the truth. "Did we say this train wasn't going to the death-camp? What a silly mistake!"
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I do not remember LWers assuring others that SSM would never be considered, but there was a not so distant time when SSM was opposed by a majority. Over time that opposition waned, and now we have SSM

The fact is that existing mRNA vaccines require cold temperatures, so spraying them into a room will effectively inactivate them in short order. Plus an airborne vaccine needs to be at a high enough concentration to elicit a response, so the recipient would have to be right next to the source.

What nefarious ultimate intent do you see at play here? The effort to vaccinate people against an infectious pathogen against their will? Or something else?
 
Michael R2 said:
Storage logs available at the CDC come in two flavors, refrigerator storage at 2-8 degrees Celsius for normal vaccines and ultra-cold storage at -60 to -90 degrees Celsius for the mRNA vaccines. Look it up. The mRNA vaccine is not stable for long at refrigeration, let alone room, temperatures.
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That's transportation and long term storage....the jab juice can be on a shelf ready for use for up to 6 hours at 77 deg F. ref

Is that not enough time?
 
vibise said:
I do not remember LWers assuring others that SSM would never be considered,
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Then you have a faulty memory. All they wanted, at first - at least according to their commentary - was "civil unions". Don't worry, they said, "marriage" isn't the goal. We aren't looking to change the institution of marriage. We just want equal rights and civil unions accomplish this.

But as soon as civil unions became law, it was, ok, well, civil unions aren't equal so we need SSM.

If you don't remember this, that's on you. It was all over - at least where I live anyway.
 
Thistle said:
When the repeal of sodomy laws were under discussion, opponents argued that "this is gonna lead to gay marriage" and people like you were assuring them "that is totally ridiculous." Now, I'm not for sodomy laws. But I think you see the point.

The point being that people on your side of these discussions lie about their ultimate intent, right up to the point that they win, at which moment they immediately tell the truth. "Did we say this train wasn't going to the death-camp? What a silly mistake!"
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The right made the slippery slope fallacy that gay marriage would lead to people marrying toasters and dogs.

Could make the same “argument” against interracial marriage.
 
Why do you all think that the phrase “give them an inch and they’ll take a mile” came about anyway?

Slippery slope arguments aren’t necessarily wrong. In fact, they quite often prove to be quite correct.

The reason slippery slope is a logical fallacy is because it’s not NECESSARILY true that a person given an inch will take a mile. But vast human experience over every culture that’s ever existed on earth shows that very often, people who are given inches will try to take miles. So people are wise to be wary when people say, don’t worry, I’m only asking for X, I’m not asking for X+1 or X+2, etc.
 
Crazy Ivan said:
you have a faulty memory. All they wanted, at first - at least according to their commentary - was "civil unions". Don't worry, they said, "marriage" isn't the goal.
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In order for this claim to be true, several things need to first be established:
  • Who - exactly - are "they"?
  • What was the date at which they were saying they only wanted civil unions, and that marriage wasn't the goal?
I don't remember anything like you've described, but it's possible you've identified a tiny minority of the left wing, who made these statements during a specific (and frankly now outdated) time.

Help me to remember what you're referring to, because I was born in the late 60s, and I can't recall anything like you've described.
 
mikeT said:
In order for this claim to be true, several things need to first be established:
  • Who - exactly - are "they"?
  • What was the date at which they were saying they only wanted civil unions, and that marriage wasn't the goal?
I don't remember anything like you've described, but it's possible you've identified a tiny minority of the left wing, who made these statements during a specific (and frankly now outdated) time.

Help me to remember what you're referring to, because I was born in the late 60s, and I can't recall anything like you've described.
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I live in a liberal state in New England. This was the standard argument put forth by the LGBTQ community arguing for civil unions in the early 2000s.
 
Crazy Ivan said:
Why do you all think that the phrase “give them an inch and they’ll take a mile” came about anyway?

Slippery slope arguments aren’t necessarily wrong. In fact, they quite often prove to be quite correct.

The reason slippery slope is a logical fallacy is because it’s not NECESSARILY true that a person given an inch will take a mile. But vast human experience over every culture that’s ever existed on earth shows that very often, people who are given inches will try to take miles. So people are wise to be wary when people say, don’t worry, I’m only asking for X, I’m not asking for X+1 or X+2, etc.
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Sure

But just to make sure the usual suspects aren’t just hating on the gays, let’s start the slippery slope at miscegenation.
 
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