I don't get conservative Methodists in the UMC.

When I say I don't "get" them, I mean I don't understand why they think the way they do. How is it that, if you believe the Bible, and you believe its teachings on human sexuality, that you can even consider remaining in a denomination that is so full of sexual anarchy?

I'm not a Methodist...but for some reason I've had an interest in recent years in following the UMC conservative/progressive controversies, and this week I watched much of the video on YouTube of the 2019 General Conference. What I saw was a handful of reluctant traditionalists speaking meekly every so often while shrieking liberals, homosexuals, feminists, and other such characters kept trying to dominate the meeting. I don't think I'd have the patience for it, as much as I sympathize with the desire of the traditionalists to bring the denomination back to its faithful beginnings. I think the progressives here in the US seem far too entrenched in the machinery of the denomination for traditionalists to make much of a lasting impact.
 

1Thess521

Well-known member
I spend years within the UMC in various leadership positions in the local church and wider community.
The issue is the their low opinion of God's word
I attempted to change that from within.
for example, When I was the lead teacher for an adult Sunday School class.
I would often drop in phrases like "lets see what God's inerrant word tells us" or " God's infallible truth teaches us..."
 

SteveB

Well-known member
When I say I don't "get" them, I mean I don't understand why they think the way they do. How is it that, if you believe the Bible, and you believe its teachings on human sexuality, that you can even consider remaining in a denomination that is so full of sexual anarchy?

I'm not a Methodist...but for some reason I've had an interest in recent years in following the UMC conservative/progressive controversies, and this week I watched much of the video on YouTube of the 2019 General Conference. What I saw was a handful of reluctant traditionalists speaking meekly every so often while shrieking liberals, homosexuals, feminists, and other such characters kept trying to dominate the meeting. I don't think I'd have the patience for it, as much as I sympathize with the desire of the traditionalists to bring the denomination back to its faithful beginnings. I think the progressives here in the US seem far too entrenched in the machinery of the denomination for traditionalists to make much of a lasting impact.
I left the Methodist church 48-49 years ago as a tween. So, anything I have to say is for no other reason than to simply say something..... 🤔
I left the methodist church decades ago. I didn't understand it then, so there's no way I could understand it now.

Ok... I've said plenty.
 

1Thess521

Well-known member
When I say I don't "get" them, I mean I don't understand why they think the way they do. How is it that, if you believe the Bible, and you believe its teachings on human sexuality, that you can even consider remaining in a denomination that is so full of sexual anarchy?

I'm not a Methodist...but for some reason I've had an interest in recent years in following the UMC conservative/progressive controversies, and this week I watched much of the video on YouTube of the 2019 General Conference. What I saw was a handful of reluctant traditionalists speaking meekly every so often while shrieking liberals, homosexuals, feminists, and other such characters kept trying to dominate the meeting. I don't think I'd have the patience for it, as much as I sympathize with the desire of the traditionalists to bring the denomination back to its faithful beginnings. I think the progressives here in the US seem far too entrenched in the machinery of the denomination for traditionalists to make much of a lasting impact.


From 2019
One question asked respondents to choose the most authoritative source of their personal theology.
Meanwhile, the largest group of liberals, 39 percent, cited reason as most authoritative. The smallest, 6 percent, chose Holy Scripture.

 

Mike McK

Active member
When I say I don't "get" them, I mean I don't understand why they think the way they do. How is it that, if you believe the Bible, and you believe its teachings on human sexuality, that you can even consider remaining in a denomination that is so full of sexual anarchy?

I'm not a Methodist...but for some reason I've had an interest in recent years in following the UMC conservative/progressive controversies, and this week I watched much of the video on YouTube of the 2019 General Conference. What I saw was a handful of reluctant traditionalists speaking meekly every so often while shrieking liberals, homosexuals, feminists, and other such characters kept trying to dominate the meeting. I don't think I'd have the patience for it, as much as I sympathize with the desire of the traditionalists to bring the denomination back to its faithful beginnings. I think the progressives here in the US seem far too entrenched in the machinery of the denomination for traditionalists to make much of a lasting impact.
I grew up in the UMC. In fact, my grandparents founded the church I grew up in, my uncle was the sexton and I was his assistant, so I was literally there every time the doors were open, because I was the guy who opened the doors. And in our small town, our church was the center of the social universe.

I ended up getting saved in my early twenties and left the UMC when I discovered that learning more and more about Christian theology, I could no longer affirm many of the beliefs of the UMC.

Although I have serious theological disagreements with the UMC, I have nothing but fond memories of my time there.

But, that having been said, I agree with you. I don't see how any Bible believing Christian could stay there.
 

Mike McK

Active member
From 2019
One question asked respondents to choose the most authoritative source of their personal theology.
Meanwhile, the largest group of liberals, 39 percent, cited reason as most authoritative. The smallest, 6 percent, chose Holy Scripture.

When we lived in New Jersey, we attended a very large, but very liberal Methodist church. Had I understood Christian theology and doctrine better at the time, the frequent speaking appearances of noted socialist and heretic, Tony Campolo (he lived in the area) would have been a tip off.

I remember carrying my Bible (I didn't know it, but I was a new Christian and I was trying to do the right thing) and the people in the church looking at me like I was an alien.
 

Beloved Daughter

Active member
I'm of the opinion that people who claim to be Christians but reject the Bible as the foundation of that belief, are deluded and need intervention. Unfortunately, you'll see the same in the Episcopal Church, The ELCA Lutherans and The Presbyterian church USA. The MS and WELS Lutherans are orthodox. The Presbyterian Church in America is also orthodox.

In America, we have ready access to a Bible, but there people world wide that don't.
 
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