its a bit of a contextual stretch your using christ to discuss eating swine etc. Im too tired to spell it out with footnotes, not that my posts even get read.Regarding swine and shellfish, Jesus declared all foods clean, so from the very beginning of the Church it's remained that way:
"Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.)" (Mark 7:18-19 ESV)
Regarding Sunday as the Sabbath, that's been the custom since the very beginning of the Church also and hasn't changed. Justin Martyr wrote in the 100s AD:
"Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead" (Justin Martyr, First Apology, ~130 AD)
About usury, the Church has never allowed it in the past and still doesn't allow it now.
I think you missed my point.Thank you, but you seem to miss my point. Calling people who reject Jesus "retrobate" is an accurate theological description of their state before God. Calling people "evil" is an unwarranted act of condemnation towards another person.. The difference is in the viewpoint, personal versus what God thinks, as revealed in the Bible.
I have a problem if and when you accuse people of rejecting Jesus when they haven't.
i wasn’t talking about the poster in my long post which i’m assuming you are referring to. i was complimenting your post and that you listen to Him and had discernment about that church intrusion. what zinger do you mean? im confused now.In other words, the poster to whom you aimed your above zinger ^^^^ is not saved because s/he does not do as you say should be done. Kinda shallow evaluation, me thinks.
Exactly.Since we really do not know their heart, that presents a degree of difficulty, eh?
However, it is not wrong to hold their posts up as sort of a "litmus test" and make a reasonable conclusion based upon those pieces of evidence. If that person hates Jesus, their hatred will show up in their writings. Really, it is not too hard to determine.
In other words, the poster to whom you aimed your above zinger ^^^^ is not saved because s/he does not do as you say should be done. Kinda shallow evaluation, me thinks.
Is a reprobate evil ? Are satanist evil ?Begging your pardon but you are calling all liberals evil, and that is flat-out wrong to do so.
The fire may have have begun as you stated, but the absence of evidence presented in your short post cannot be the basis for continued rumor mongering.
In a church I pastored below the Mason-Dixon Line we had some satanists break into the church and painted demonic runes inside of the organ using grape juice mixed with urine in order to make a demonic curse. I saw both the pictures of the fresh damage, and I saw the remnants of the stains remaining in the sound board in the back.
As I left, someone from a church in our denomination told me that there was a couple who were very involved in the KKK. That was confirmed by a vision given by Holy Spirit while visiting the family
Can you see the difference in what you wrote? You relied on third-hand information to make a curse on all liberals. I wrote things that I personally observed, and which actually happened.
Theologically speaking God loves all liberals, and Satanists, and it is not our job to condemn another human made in the image of God. On the other hand both Liberals and Satanists are reprobates because they despise the offer of free salvation through Jesus Christ. But that never gives Christians the right to curse them by saying that they are evil people.
in fairness to john, i placed the quote there and did not link it to my last longer post right before that one… losing its context. then there were other posts.. and it logically makes sense I could have replied to one of those.Ummm, it's a quote from Scripture. To call Scripture "shallow" is a dangerous thing.
I don't know that eve was necessarily aiming that quote as a "zinger" at anyone. Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't.
Again, you assume she was, and accuse her, without knowing. From where I sit, she was simply quoting Scripture. Your actions are dangerous.
blush.. well then you probably know they aren’t well liked. the main thing i’m thinking about was in my longer post above.I read many of your posts!
I think we need to be careful when we label people "evil." We can name behaviors, even beliefs, "evil," but that doesn't mean the person who does them or thinks them is evil.Is a reprobate evil ? Are satanist evil ?
Is a reprobate evil ? Are satanist evil ?