I may have voted to destroy America as we see it and start a China/ 1930"s-1940's Germany II

I regret my vote. I voted for Biden. I think I voted for the deconstruction of America as we know it now. I think I voted for a false perception of equality, inclusion, diversify and equity that was being fed to me by propaganda. I think I voted for a false unity. I think I voted for persecution of Christians and the attempting change of the church and America from the inside out. I think I voted for a forced language change, a forced history change, a forced old habits change, a forced old traditions change, a forced old customs change, a forced old ideas change and a forced culture change. I think I voted for liberalism supremacy.

My intention was not to vote for any of these things. But by voting for Biden, I think I have helped to destroy what we've had for 245 years. Hopefully I am wrong but time will tell. The only problem is we seem to somewhat forget how things were to a certain point after things change and we get use to it unless it is documented. I'm hoping it is documented how we used to have things and we don't forget.

One big problem I see is many have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into thinking bad liberalism is good because of the things it promises but many of things are false promises. I think the reasons for change are just justification for some to get power and keep power, who have bad ideologies and want to shape the U.S. to benefit them instead of the people.

When there are people that think they know better than half the country and will try to force the other half into submission with lies about them being bad, than there definitely is a problem. Unfortunately there are some Christians who have drunk the kool-aid by trying to change other Christians convictions and twist the bible to make bad things seem not so bad inorser for them to vote for Biden.

I and others have been lied to. I regret not figuring it out before voting.

I and other legitimate Christians will be okay despise what happens to the U.S. but that doesn't mean I should participate in making it worst. If God allows it to be worst because it is part of His big picture and will, than that is different.

I hope others can start to see that we have been tricked. I hope others can start to see that the things they may think are truth and facts may have just been fed to them and put down on paper, put in science and put down in other so called reliable sources as truths/facts but they are really lies.

The time has past when we are able to discern truth from lies as easy because some with bad ideologies have found ways to change and control the authoritative sources.

Thank God we still have the bible where as if you know how to divide the word of truth and have a love relationship and prayer relationship with God, you mostly likely will not be tricked for long, as long as you obey what God says.

I ask that you think critically about what I have said and consider the points. I have come to this after getting into politics a little since 2015. Some of this is my view and some I have evidence for but do to bias I am not putting it on here. Hopefully things like confirmation bias don't make you ignore what I'm saying.

I ask myself what must some with bad ideologies who are in power do for me to believe what I'm hearing. Then I waited for them to cross that line and they did. Maybe you should make tht line for yourself. And try not to justify it away or rationalize it away when they cross your line. (Or lines)
 
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Thistle

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I regret my vote. I voted for Biden. I think I voted for the deconstruction of America as we know it now. I think I voted for a false perception of equality, inclusion, diversify and equity that was being fed to me by propaganda. I think I voted for a false unity. I think I voted for persecution of Christians and the attempting change of the church and America from the inside out. I think I voted for a forced language change, a forced history change, a forced old habits change, a forced old traditions change, a forced old customs change, a forced old ideas change and a forced culture change. I think I voted for liberalism supremacy.

My intention was not to vote for any of these things. But by voting for Biden, I think I have helped to destroy what we've had for 245 years. Hopefully I am wrong but time will tell. The only problem is we seem to somewhat forget how things were to a certain point after things change and we get use to it unless it is documented. I'm hoping it is documented how we used to have things and we don't forget.

One big problem I see is many have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into thinking bad liberalism is good because of the things it promises but many of things are false promises. I think the reasons for change are just justification for some to get power and keep power, who have bad ideologies and want to shape the U.S. to benefit them instead of the people.

When there are people that think they know better than half the country and will try to force the other half into submission with lies about them being bad, than there definitely is a problem. Unfortunately there are some Christians who have drunk the kool-aid by trying to change other Christians convictions and twist the bible to make bad things seem not so bad inorser for them to vote for Biden.

I and others have been lied to. I regret not figuring it out before voting.

I and other legitimate Christians will be okay despise what happens to the U.S. but that doesn't mean I should participate in making it worst. If God allows it to be worst because it is part of His big picture and will, than that is different.

I hope others can start to see that we have been tricked. I hope others can start to see that the things they may think are truth and facts may have just been fed to them and put down on paper, put in science and put down in other so called reliable sources as truths/facts but they are really lies.

The time has past when we are able to discern truth from lies as easy because some with bad ideologies have found ways to change and control the authoritative sources.

Thank God we still have the bible where as if you know how to divide the word of truth and have a love relationship and prayer relationship with God, you mostly likely will not be tricked for long, as long as you obey what God says.

I ask that you think critically about what I have said and consider the points. I have come to this after getting into politics a little since 2015. Some of this is my view and some I have evidence for but do to bias I am not putting it on here. Hopefully things like confirmation bias don't make you ignore what I'm saying.

I ask myself what must some with bad ideologies who are in power do for me to believe what I'm hearing. Then I waited for them to cross that line and they did. Maybe you should make tht line for yourself. And try not to justify it away or rationalize it away when they cross your line. (Or lines)
This is a very brave post. Those of us who've followed politics closely all our lives try not to challenge our brothers and sisters in Christ too much on political issues, on the ground that we don't want to divide the household of faith. Often times I can see the deep godlines in my liberal brothers in Christ.

They are not so much liberal theologically, but politically. And in the best cases both sides recognize the problem. Facts and alleged facts are shuffled into narratives that are literally mutually exclusive in the real world. Each side can cite facts that are real to support their narrative, but the inferences they draw are mutually exclusive.

If there is one problem I think is more problematic than any other is that too many of my politically liberal brothers believe that Leftists are more like them than conservatives. Liberals and conservative can have a very civil discussion about policy issues, but you can't have a civil conversation with a Leftists. As a result all the problems you mention above become impossible to stop by means of rational political discourse. For liberals to extend charity to conservatives is to come to blows with Leftists.

There is this mistaken belief that all the Leftists want is fill in the blank. That is all they are revealing at this instant. What they want is total power to control you. They cannot be appeased and they will never stop. They have been doing this from the days of Karl Marx and they have not rested for one second in the intervening nearly two hundred years. If you count from the French Revolution its been more than 230 years.
 

Thistle

Well-known member
Kayne 2020!

For those who didn't know and weren't lucky enough to be in a state we was actually on the ballot, here are Kayne's results per https://www.vulture.com/2020/11/kanye-west-election-2020-vote-results.html :

Arkansas: 4,040
Colorado: 6,127
Idaho: 3,092
Iowa: 3,197
Kentucky: 6,259
Louisiana: 4,894
Minnesota: 7,654
Mississippi: 3,117
Oklahoma: 5,590
Tennessee: 10,195
Utah: 4,311
Vermont: 1,255
Those kind of numbers would have easily gotten him elected to the local water district preservation board.
 

Torin

Active member
@john james I'm not a Christian, but conservative Christians like yourself are the good guys right now (of the mainstream options at present, that is). Your ideology has many flaws and some evil components by my lights (like opposition to abortion), but you're substantially more pro-freedom and pro-America than the left. The left has rapidly turned into a powerful force for complete social and economic control in the name of fighting racism.

I do not think you should regret not voting for Trump. I voted for Trump, but he's only slightly less bad than the left. He does not really represent decent conservatives.

Decent people are being forced to choose between socialism and fascism in America right now. It's insane.
 

Whateverman

Well-known member
@john james I'm not a Christian, but conservative Christians like yourself are the good guys right now (of the mainstream options at present, that is). Your ideology has many flaws and some evil components by my lights (like opposition to abortion), but you're substantially more pro-freedom and pro-America than the left. The left has rapidly turned into a powerful force for complete social and economic control in the name of fighting racism.

I do not think you should regret not voting for Trump. I voted for Trump, but he's only slightly less bad than the left. He does not really represent decent conservatives.

Decent people are being forced to choose between socialism and fascism in America right now. It's insane.
You've... radicalized.
 

LifeIn

Active member
"What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people."

~President Donald J. Trump
Odd that he would say that at the same time he is refusing to let the people control the government.
 

LifeIn

Active member
You mean shadow government people that have been trying to run their dual presidency for the past four years?
No, I mean the fact that the people decided through an election to put someone else in charge, but Trump seems bent on not letting those people control the government by having whom they choose as President. So when he says the people should control the government, it rings hollow.
 

DeSanto

Active member
No, I mean the fact that the people decided through an election to put someone else in charge, but Trump seems bent on not letting those people control the government by having whom they choose as President. So when he says the people should control the government, it rings hollow.
Biden was selected (not elected) by the shadow people... not the American people.
 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
Odd that he would say that at the same time he is refusing to let the people control the government.
Which people?

The most notorious environmentalists in history were the German Nazis. ... Adolf Hitler and other leading Nazis were vegetarian and they passed numerous laws

Environmentalistas?

Street thugs Antifalala?

Your left winger cheaters at the polls?
 

Temujin

Well-known member
Which people?

The most notorious environmentalists in history were the German Nazis. ... Adolf Hitler and other leading Nazis were vegetarian and they passed numerous laws

Environmentalistas?

Street thugs Antifalala?

Your left winger cheaters at the polls?
Superb political analysis! It's all the fault of the vegetarians. Look how they have infiltrated the stores and the cookery shows, forcing us to eat quinoa and endame beans. See them vote in their millions to reject Trump just because he eats hamburgers. Now they are in power, they will take away your hotdogs and your ham sandwich. A lifetime of warm lettuce and limp celery awaits.

In the real world, a right wing party has been defeated in a fair election by a slightly less right wing party. Normal service will be maintained. As usual when governments change, most people will see no difference at all.
 

Diogenes

Active member
And the other good point is you can go straight to disappointment without that regret detour.

That and the main parties are terrible. The primaries are a rush to the center and then it's off to the extremes. As a practical matter, I tend to lean Republican but I stay near the center. I'd like Republicans to be a bit more politically pragmatic but it's not going to happen. The main decent thing about Republicans is that their SCOTUS picks are more balanced and less biased. I'm glad Trump's out, but I just wish Biden wasn't going in. The Republicans should have a ran a stronger primary contest from the national level.
 
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