I need help finding something by Martin Chemnitz

Bonnie

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Someone put down something on here by Chemnitz, about pastors being able to be married, and the OP said "Martin Chemnitz makes a funny." I saved the link it came from, but not the actual post. Now, the link does not work. Does anyone know what that "funny" was or saved it? It was about how the RCC says allowing pastors to be married applied in the past, but no more. So, Chemnitz said that apparently being sober and good teachers also did not apply. Thanks!
 

Beloved

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Someone put down something on here by Chemnitz, about pastors being able to be married, and the OP said "Martin Chemnitz makes a funny." I saved the link it came from, but not the actual post. Now, the link does not work. Does anyone know what that "funny" was or saved it? It was about how the RCC says allowing pastors to be married applied in the past, but no more. So, Chemnitz said that apparently being sober and good teachers also did not apply. Thanks!
Bonnie, type in search the

I need help finding something by Martin Chemnitz and up comes your name in Carm plus go down about 5 answers and it gives you sites to go to . https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/martin-chemnitz-quotes

 

Bonnie

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Thanks, but when I typed in "married pastors" all I got were some comments from posters. I will try to think of a word that would lead me to that quote. Because that quote I am looking for isn't in the link.

This was the link where the quote came from:

http://www.pseudepigraph.us/2015/11/12/martin-chemnitz-makes-a-funny/

But it is closed down. I can only find the beginning of the quote with I google it:

Can the dignity and holiness of the ministry bear it that a priest have a lawful spouse? By all means. For not only did priests in the Old Testament have their lawful wives, but Paul also writes, in the New Testament, that such a bishop and elder is to be chosen as is both of blameless life and the ...
 
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Tertiumquid

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Thanks, but when I typed in "married pastors" all I got were some comments from posters. I will try to think of a word that would lead me to that quote. Because that quote I am looking for isn't in the link.

This was the link where the quote came from:

http://www.pseudepigraph.us/2015/11/12/martin-chemnitz-makes-a-funny/

But it is closed down. I can only find the beginning of the quote with I google it:
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Martin Chemnitz Makes a Funny


Can the dignity and holiness of the ministry bear it that a priest have a lawful spouse?


By all means. For not only did priests in the Old Testament have their lawful wives, but Paul also writes, in the New Testament, that such a bishop and elder is to be chosen as is both of blameless life and the husband of one wife (l Ti 3:2; Tts l:5-6).

But some say: Paul is to be understood allegorically, namely that a bishop is to be appointed over only one church, or that he indeed can be chosen bishop who formerly was the husband of one wife, but not he who still is, or he who still has his own wife.


Paul himself is his own clear interpreter, namely that by husband of one wife he means him who has children, and not only of the church, but also of a family, that is, he rules well a wife, children, and servants (1 Ti 3:4; Tts 1:16). So also some of the apostles had their own wives, not only before they became apostles, but they also lived in marriage with them at the very time when they were apostles (1 Co 9:5). So also Ignatius and Clemens explain that passage of Paul. Moreover, Paul does not say, He who was the husband of one wife, but: He who is. And if these words were to be wrested to the past tense, it would necessarily also follow therefrom that a bishop is to be chosen who was at one time sober and able to teach, but is no longer so.


(Blessed Martin Chemnitz, Ministry, Word, and Sacraments: An Enchiridion (1593, 1603), ed., trans. Luther Poellot; St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1981; 148-149)
 
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