I'd Like To Be A Catholic

[SPOKENWORD]

I have been Catholic for all 42 years of my life--and I have not had any trouble.

It took me that long in the RCC to see how blind I was to the truth of Gods Word. I,m thankful that God drew me out.

 

[mica]

romishpopishorganist said:
And while we are on the subject, I want to become Protestant--but there are liabilities associated with that. You know--TULIP, Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, the Commandments, the dogma, the Church services, the writings of the reformers and other Protestant theologians, the Protestant catechisms, the Commandments, and all this, coupled with the Scriptures themselves. That's a lot to remember, let alone put into practice.

do you want to become a protestant who is a believer or one who is an unbeliever?

oh my, that's sounds like a lot to know and learn - compared to the RCC? a believer has one written source to turn to - scripture. there are other writings and commentaries to use also but probably not that many when you toss out all of those by unbelievers / false religions. Find a good bible teacher (or a few of them), read His word, study it and research it.

you learn as you grow in Him, and it's the desire of the heart to do that, it's not a chore. And you'd have the Holy Spirit to guide and teach you.

 

[balshan]

do you want to become a protestant who is a believer or one who is an unbeliever?

oh my, that's sounds like a lot to know and learn - compared to the RCC? a believer has one written source to turn to - scripture. there are other writings and commentaries to use also but probably not that many when you toss out all of those by unbelievers / false religions. Find a good bible teacher (or a few of them), read His word, study it and research it.

you learn as you grow in Him, and it's the desire of the heart to do that, it's not a chore. And you'd have the Holy Spirit to guide and teach you.

I agree but not all books have to be academic. I read the books by Catherine Marshall, Corrie Ten Boom and Merlin Carothers to name a few that tell about God in their lives.

 

[mica]

Dant01 said:
Once someone is committed-- completed First Holy Communion and Confirmation -God will be holding them accountable to comply with everything Rome teaches and stands for: the Commandments, the Canon Law, the dogma, the rituals, the Traditions, the Councils, the Bulls, the Encyclicals, the rites, the holy days of obligation, and the entire Catechism; plus everything that Jesus and the apostles taught in the New Testament, i.e. the gospels and the epistles.

That's a lot to remember, let alone put into practice.

If it is so difficult for you, then don't become Catholic.

I have been Catholic for all 42 years of my life--and I have not had any trouble.
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not that you about at this point. not knowing and understanding the truth of scripture should be a major problem if one is a believer.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

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Before taking the plunge, I suggest taking time to think about a number of
liabilities associated with Catholicism.

Once someone is committed-- completed First Holy Communion and Confirmation -
God will be holding them accountable to comply with everything Rome teaches and
stands for: the Commandments, the Canon Law, the dogma, the rituals, the
Traditions, the Councils, the Bulls, the Encyclicals, the rites, the holy days of
obligation, and the entire Catechism; plus everything that Jesus and the apostles
taught in the New Testament, i.e. the gospels and the epistles.

The "Roman Catholic Corp, Inc." will hold them accountable, which means nothing. God has nothing to do with it.

And then there's the matter of mortal sin.

ALL SIN is "Mortal Sin" to enter HEaven PERFECTION is required. That's why the need a perfect SAVIOR. WHen we're Born Again by Faith, we're PERFECT in God's sight. Roman Catholic blasphemy to the contrary not withstanding.

 

[romishpopishorganist]

Wanting to belong to a denomination is not what God requires. He wants you to be a member of His family, that means following Jesus and not man.

Yes, but there are visible characteristics to being part of the family of God. The Church is the Kingdom of God on earth. All kingdoms have rules, all kingdoms are visible. If you locate the rulers you locate the kingdom.

The Church is God is not simply an invisible reality.

By the way you have shown you do not understand either Sola Scriptura or Sola Fide. There is not a lot to remember at all. God says He will write the word on our hearts. He brings to us what we need to do, to follow Him. There is not scripture which says you must join an denomination.

Yes, and it is only because there are hundreds of Protestants sects all disagreeing with each other, all having their own set of characteristics, leadership and beliefs that the question of sect becomes an issue. Without the Protestant sects, there would be no sects. There would just be the Church in union with the Bishop of Rome and the Orthodox who are in schism, but nonetheless part of the true Church.

 

[romishpopishorganist]

That's

your problem! In all my years as a Christian, I've never been given tests or quizzes or anything like that!

And?

All that "stuff" is secondary, if not tertiary.

And?

The reason for coming together is to fellowship with each other and with Jesus - you know, wherever two or more - and to worship our Savior, and to learn more about Him from His Word.

I was always under the impression that breaking bread was essential to "fellowship" and should very much be part of Sabbath worship.

I've been to Lutheran, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Methodist, Reformed Baptist, (and other Baptist) churches. They ALL worshipped Jesus, whether it was the more formal Lutheran or the less formal Pentecostal.

I will admit, though, unless Jesus has made a change in your heart, you will be bored out of your gourd!

Sigh...Jesus HAS made a change in my heart. That is why I am Catholic.

 

[balshan]

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Yes, but there are visible characteristics to being part of the family of God. The Church is the Kingdom of God on earth. All kingdoms have rules, all kingdoms are visible. If you locate the rulers you locate the kingdom.

The Church is God is not simply an invisible reality.


Yes, and it is only because there are hundreds of Protestants sects all disagreeing with each other, all having their own set of characteristics, leadership and beliefs that the question of sect becomes an issue. Without the Protestant sects, there would be no sects. There would just be the Church in union with the Bishop of Rome and the Orthodox who are in schism, but nonetheless part of the true Church.

Yep and your institution has not shown those visible characteristics at all.

 

[mica]

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I was always under the impression that breaking bread was essential to "fellowship" and should very much be part of Sabbath worship.

Sigh...Jesus HAS made a change in my heart. That is why I am Catholic.

nope. according to you, you were catholic before the time you claim to 'have had your heart changed'.

so what changed if you are still catholic?

just repeating some words doesn't change one's heart, God does that.

you've repeated lots of words as a catholic... memorizing what the RCC tells you that you must believe.

wasn't your heart changed as a baby when your parents had you water baptized in the RCC? Isn't that what water baptism is for in the RCC?

 

[mica]

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Yes, and it is only because there are hundreds of Protestants sects all disagreeing with each other, all having their own set of characteristics, leadership and beliefs that the question of sect becomes an issue. Without the Protestant sects, there would be no sects. There would just be the Church in union with the Bishop of Rome and the Orthodox who are in schism, but nonetheless part of the true Church.

sure there would be. there'd still be those catholics sects who disagree.

 

[balshan]

sure there would be. there'd still be those catholics sects who disagree.

Excellent point. I consider the RCC a sect. It was never the NT church.

 

[4Him]

all the Tabernacles have Christ

Difference between Catholics and Christians....

Catholics think Christ is abiding in their churches.

ChristIans have Christ abiding in them.

 

[Doug]

The pope hangs an image of Jesus being naked caressing Judas.

You want to part of this?

Pope hangs image of nude Jesus caressing Judas behind his desk

A report by the Vatican's own newspaper reveals Pope Francis recently hung an image behind his desk depicting a naked Jesus Christ caressing his dead apostle Judas Iscariot.

www.wnd.com

 

[balshan]

The pope hangs an image of Jesus being naked caressing Judas.

You want to part of this?

Pope hangs image of nude Jesus caressing Judas behind his desk

A report by the Vatican's own newspaper reveals Pope Francis recently hung an image behind his desk depicting a naked Jesus Christ caressing his dead apostle Judas Iscariot.

www.wnd.com

Is this reliable? It seems very strange.

the painting was inspired by Francis’ 2018 book Quando pregate dite Padre Nostro in which Francis suggests the salvation of Judas...
As often happens, Pope Francis let’s his trusted men speak with more vigor than he himself would. In December last year, one of Pope Francis’ most trusted allies in the Vatican, Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia, went so far as to say that all those who say Judas is in hell are “heretics.”...
In that same address, Paglia asserted that a priest may legitimately remain at the bedside of someone undergoing assisted suicide in order to “hold their hand” and “accompany” them...

Nevertheless, the teaching of the church is clear on the damnation of Judas. The Catechism of the Council of Trent is very explicit on this point saying that Judas “lost soul and body” and that his betrayal despite his priesthood “brought him everlasting destruction.”

Why is there a painting of a nude Jesus ministering to Judas in Pope Francis’ study?

L’Osservatore Romano, the Vatican’s own newspaper, featured as its cover photo a scandalous painting of Our Lord in the Pope’s own quarters. (LifeSiteNews)According to the Vatican’s own…

catholicismpure.wordpress.com

Really you cannot make this stuff up. Obviously the Council of Trent did not make that an infallible announcement. It was being run by heretics? And is that comment about assisted suicides another new doctrine coming up.

As I keep saying actions speak and they shout the RCC is not the body of Christ.

 

[mica]

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I was always under the impression that breaking bread was essential to "fellowship" and should very much be part of Sabbath worship.

Sigh...Jesus HAS made a change in my heart. That is why I am Catholic.

Who brought up breaking bread other than you? i didn't see it mentioned in the post you replied to.

Do you mean 'essential' as in one can't have fellowship without it?

why did you bring up Sabbath worship? I didn't see that in the post you replied to either.

 

[balshan]

Who brought up breaking bread other than you? i didn't see it mentioned in the post you replied to.

Do you mean 'essential' as in one can't have fellowship without it?

why did you bring up Sabbath worship? I didn't see that in the post you replied to either.

Yep he is trying to bring communion into the topic. But if RCs were honest it was part of the agape feast.

 

[leonard03782]

Yes, but there are visible characteristics to being part of the family of God. The Church is the Kingdom of God on earth. All kingdoms have rules, all kingdoms are visible. If you locate the rulers you locate the kingdom.

The Church is God is not simply an invisible reality.


Yes, and it is only because there are hundreds of Protestants sects all disagreeing with each other, all having their own set of characteristics, leadership and beliefs that the question of sect becomes an issue. Without the Protestant sects, there would be no sects. There would just be the Church in union with the Bishop of Rome and the Orthodox who are in schism, but nonetheless part of the true Church.

The false god of the rcc is a weak and pathetic king. He allows corruption, immorality, fornication, child abuse, idolatry, and every other evil under the sun to flourish within the walls of his kingdom unhindered. Not only do your blind eyes not see what is going on, you defend him to the point of your own destruction.

 

[LifeIn]

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Before taking the plunge, I suggest taking time to think about a number of
liabilities associated with Catholicism.

Once someone is committed-- completed First Holy Communion and Confirmation -
God will be holding them accountable to comply with everything Rome teaches and
stands for: the Commandments, the Canon Law, the dogma, the rituals, the
Traditions, the Councils, the Bulls, the Encyclicals, the rites, the holy days of
obligation, and the entire Catechism; plus everything that Jesus and the apostles
taught in the New Testament, i.e. the gospels and the epistles.

That's a lot to remember, let alone put into practice.

And then there's the matter of mortal sin. When Catholics leave this life with just
one non-absolved mortal sin on the books, just one, they go straight to Hell. It's a
direct flight; no stopover in a Purgatory. Even if a Catholic managed to be a top
performer in faith and practice for fifty years, none of that will be taken into
consideration. They will leave this life as if they'd been a pagan the whole time.
Mortal sins are that lethal.

In addition; the Divine judge isn't a political appointee like members of the US
Supreme Court, viz; He isn't biased towards the left or to the right, i.e. the justice
of God is fair across the board, so that affiliation with the Roman church grants no
one a certain amount of special consideration. (Rom 2:6-11, and 1Pet 1:17)
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It sounds like you have already made up your mind on the question. Contrary to the title of the thread, it seems you have come here just to confirm what you have already decided. If you only want confirmation that being a Catholic is a bad idea, you have come to the right place. Finding disinformation and misrepresentations of Catholic faith on the Internet is fairly easy. But if you truly are searching for truth, look inside yourself. "I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts." Considering your own intuitive sense of punishment and reward, which makes more sense to you - the Catholic view that heaven is the reward for those who have freely chosen to follow the Lord and the punishment of hell is for those who have freely chosen to spurn Gods commandments - or the anti-Catholic view that heaven is only for those who have been chosen beforehand to be born again through no free choice of their own, and hell is for those who were chosen for hell before time began, again through no free choice of their own? Which concept of punishment aligns with your own personal understanding, consider that punishment in societies around the world are all based on assuming a free choice to violate laws and standards of behavior?

If you really want to look into Catholicism, I recommend reading the book by G. K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy.

 

[RiJoRi]

I was always under the impression that breaking bread was essential to "fellowship" and should very much be part of Sabbath worship.

Sure you're not Italian? 'Though their "breaking of bread" is usually over the pasta. (I'm basically Anglo-Sax American, matured in Christ in an Italian Pentecostal church; Italian step-mother, so I know! )

Just do a word search for "fellowship" in the NT, and see how it's used.

 

[balshan]

Sure you're not Italian? 'Though their "breaking of bread" is usually over the pasta. (I'm basically Anglo-Sax American, matured in Christ in an Italian Pentecostal church; Italian step-mother, so I know! )

Just do a word search for "fellowship" in the NT, and see how it's used.

I so miss my nonna's cooking.