If aliens did exist, then how would followers of Ellen react?

Pipiripi

Member
Demons inhabit a different realm than us. According to Scripture, they are angels who rebelled against god.

No. If they were, they would be terrestrials.



Non sequitur. That does not follow the OP.

It is NOT hatred of you in general, nor particular that compel others to question what the SDAs believe. Can you come up with one or two non-hate-filled reasons why posters post as they do about the beliefs of y'all, and what Ellen wrote?

I just started a new thread on that.
Okay, I'm going to take a look
 

e v e

Super Member
Thanks Jesus Christ, because HE is the one that have teach us to love each other. We will stay together in the name of Jesus Christ. Bless!

yes but souls need to understand what he actually said…

traveling which you mentioned,
near death experience descriptions
(even when seeming positive!) —
are most often related to the satanic realm
 

Pipiripi

Member
yes but souls need to understand what he actually said…

traveling which you mentioned,
near death experience descriptions
(even when seeming positive!) —
are most often related to the satanic realm
Everything that I write is based from the Bible. The Bible is my life.
 

e v e

Super Member
is that not incredible?

that His words are for You?

for you and all His sons
so that you understand ?


and
very soon we will have the Change that Paul tells to us…
and be with the Lord
again..in our imperishable body



please not be offended by the following..
but this is very important…
and relates to helen…


in a human
context the idea of females in the fallen sackcloth directing male
is off…

too much to explain here..

the point is
female on this earth should not rule male,
either as pastoress or as wife
for we are in a fallen context - this earth -
(even if individually a soul has His promise)
and both male and female are backwards
and not in the right position
we had in eden before the fall
- losing our birthright…

so basically it’s impossible
the helen situation

im not saying girls cant speak (that line is esaus corruption)
or that a girl can’t hear Him

of course a girl can speak and
hear Him and witness

but not as a pastoress or leader
for that gets beyond tricky
 

e v e

Super Member
at most helen could be a soul who had some experiences

but being female she wouldn’t have the context of what those mean.

only male provides context, not female..

such that her experiences can include a
fallen entity whispering to her

this doesn’t mean she wont go to heaven,
but only God knows that…


see?

its male who rules with Him
and provides the context…

not female.

its a basic rule.
 

e v e

Super Member
if you read irenaeus you may understand

how His Spirit and Christ are His hands

and He provides the context…..

this is why in scripture male covers the female, symbol being to cover the head of.

this doesn’t mean domination of female…..
rather ….
protection of the most treasured love being…

..just as a man leaves his family and clings to his wife.

a man covers and provides the atmosphere, like the sky..

and female is his core , the love that drives male to make pretty things. these are the archetypes.

that is the image of God…
the pattern of He created them male and female.


so.. it’s impossible to follow helen.

one would need to ask which Male directs her????????

it makes no sense a female leader pastoress… as those who are His representatives are the sons.
 

JonHawk

Member
..just as a man leaves his family and clings to his wife.
But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17
so.. it’s impossible to follow helen.

one would need to ask which Male directs her????????

it makes no sense a female leader pastoress… as those who are His representatives are the sons.
For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3
 

e v e

Super Member
But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17

For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3
KJV is a work of sorcery....
Esaus corruptions of His words to us
...
esau being the type to whom the Vision is Sealed from.

The quote is not relevant to what I said...
 

Pipiripi

Member
oh Brother…most of the pioneers where legalsit!
They could be whatever in the past. But by reforming the SDA CHURCH is another story!!

If you was a thief yesterday, but today you don't steal anymore. Are you still a thief?
It is the same when God changed people life.
 

JonHawk

Member
But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17

For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3

KJV is a work of sorcery....
Esaus corruptions of His words to us
...
esau being the type to whom the Vision is Sealed from.

The quote is not relevant to what I said...
It's not about what you said eve.

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.

1 Peter 1:23
Having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever;
 

e v e

Super Member
But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17

For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3


It's not about what you said eve.

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.

1 Peter 1:23
Having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever;
kjv is not the word of God.

it’s a corruption of His words.
 

JonHawk

Member
JonHawk said:
But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17

For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3

It's not about what you said eve.

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.

1 Peter 1:23
Having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever;

kjv is not the word of God.

it’s a corruption of His words.
You're entitled to your opinion eve.

To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. 16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him; Titus 1
 

e v e

Super Member
JonHawk said:
But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 1 Corinthians 6:17

For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal 3

It's not about what you said eve.

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.

1 Peter 1:23
Having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever;


You're entitled to your opinion eve.

To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. 16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him; Titus 1
i’m just unsure what you are telling me

and the quotes are out of context
from kjv, esaus corruption.
 

JonHawk

Member
i’m just unsure what you are telling me

and the quotes are out of context
from kjv, esaus corruption.
What's with your obsession with Esau?

Do people make their own gods? Yes, but they are not gods!”
21 “Therefore I will teach them— this time I will teach them
my power and might. Then they will know that my name is the Lord. Jer 16
 

e v e

Super Member
What's with your obsession with Esau?

Do people make their own gods? Yes, but they are not gods!”
21 “Therefore I will teach them— this time I will teach them
my power and might. Then they will know that my name is the Lord. Jer 16

do you not care if corrupt souls
changed His words

and that you are quoting the corrupt words?
 

JonHawk

Member
"The Father who sent me has himself testified concerning Me"
do you not care if corrupt souls
changed His words

and that you are quoting the corrupt words?
Corrupt souls never heard His word. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, 38 nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. John 5

My sheep hear to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; John 10
 
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