If atheism is so great, why would atheists who are highly educated leave?

SteveB

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Just saw this article. You can indeed continue to argue that your "mere lack of belief" is a superior position, but the only thing you accomplish is to raise the question of why such intelligent people who have excellent educational backgrounds, and professions would cease not believing.

So, take your best stab at it. Since this crowd of atheists on this forum are on the "immediately jump into refutation mode", explain to us why they are traitors, apostates, or whatever it is that you call people who stop being atheist and come to a life-altering change in faith.

List Of Converts From Atheism To Christianity​

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May 20, 2019
Jim Warner Wallace, Smart Atheist Detective who Became a Christian

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It is no news any more that hundreds of atheist and non-theist around the world are coming to the light of the glorious gospel of Christ Jesus and and putting their faith in Him.
This is a list of over 100 notable converts from non-theism to Christianity.

Jim Warner Wallace, Smart Atheist Detective who Became a Christian
Nontheism means not believing in any gods, which is the same as the broad definition of atheism. The prefixes “a-” and “non-” mean exactly the same thing: not, without, lacking. Each belief system agrees that there are no deities that created or control mankind. Essentially the belief is that man is on their own and will not be helped by a higher power. Many atheists and nontheists believe strongly in science and the scientific method.

Recommended: Lifelong, Famous Atheist Bill Hayden Receives Jesus At 85

Notable Converts From Nontheism To Christianity

  1. A. N. Wilson – biographer and novelist who entered the theological St Stephen’s House, Oxford before proclaiming himself an atheist and writing against religion; announced his return to Christianity in
  2. Akiane Kramarik (and family) – American poet and child prodigy raised as an atheist and converted to Christianity
  3. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn – Nobel Prize-winning dissident author who converted to Russian Orthodoxy
  4. Alexis Carrel – French surgeon and biologist who was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.
  5. Alexis Mason – A Militant Atheist who Turned Christian
  6. Alfred Döblin, German novelist, essayist and doctor, a former convert from Judaism to atheism
  7. Alice Thomas Ellis – born Anna Haycraft, raised in Auguste Comte’s atheistic “church of humanity”, but became a conservative Catholic in adulthood known as Alice Thomas Ellis
  8. Alister McGrath – biochemist and Christian theologian’ founder of “scientific theology” and critic of Richard Dawkins in his book Dawkins’ God: Genes, Memes, and the Meaning of Life
  9. Allan Sandage – prolific astronomer; converted to Christianity later in his life, stating, “I could not live a life full of cynicism. I chose to believe, and a peace of mind came over me.”
  10. Allen Tate – American poet, essayist and social commentator; Poet Laureate Consultant in Poetry to the Library of Congress
  11. Anders Borg – Sweden’s Minister for Finance
  12. André Frossard – French journalist and essayist
  13. Andrew Klavan – Jewish-American writer who went from atheist to agnostic to Christian.
  14. Arnold Lunn – skier, mountaineer, and writer; as an agnostic he wrote Roman Converts, which took a critical view of Catholicism and the converts to it; later converted to Catholicism due to debating with converts, and became an apologist for the faith, although he retained a few criticisms of it
  15. Avery Dulles – Jesuit priest, theologian, and cardinal in the Catholic Church; was raised Presbyterian, but was an agnostic before his conversion to Catholic Christianity
  16. Barak Lurie – A Jewish Atheist
  17. Benedict Ashley – raised humanist; former Communist; became a noted theologian associated with River Forest Thomism
  18. Bernard Nathanson – medical doctor who was a founding member of NARAL, later becoming a pro-life proponent
  19. Bill Hayden – The 21st Governor-General of Australia. In 1996 he was recognised as the Australian Humanist of the Year by the Council of Australian Humanist Societies. Baptized September .
  20. Bo Giertz – Swedish Confessional Lutheran Bishop, theologian, and writer
  21. Bruce Cockburn – Canadian folk/rock guitarist and singer/songwriter (former agnostic)
  22. C. E. M. Joad – English philosopher whose arguing against Christianity, from an agnostic perspective, earned him criticism from T. S. Eliot; turned toward religion later, writing The Recovery of Belief a year before he died and returning to Christianity
  23. C. S. Lewis – Oxford professor and writer; well known for The Chronicles of Narnia series, and for his apologetic Mere Christianity
  24. Chai Ling – Chinese student leader of the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989; converted to evangelical Christianity in 2009
  25. Charles Péguy – French poet, essayist, and editor; went from agnostic humanist to a pro-Republic Catholic.
  26. Claude McKay – bisexual Jamaican poet who went from Communist-leaning atheist to an active Catholic Christian after a stroke
  27. Czesław Miłosz – poet, prose writer, translator and diplomat; was awarded the Neustadt International Prize for Literature, and in 1980 the Nobel Prize in Literature
  28. Dame Cicely Saunders – Templeton Prize and Conrad N. Hilton Humanitarian Prize-winning nurse known for palliative care; converted to Christianity as a young woman

    Recommended: Three Powerful Atheists Who Converted To Christianity (A Must Read)
  29. Dawn Eden Goldstein – rock journalist of Jewish ethnicity; went from an agnostic to a Catholic, who was particularly concerned with the moral values of chastity
  30. E. F. Schumacher – economic thinker known for Small Is Beautiful; his A Guide for the Perplexed criticizes what he termed “materialistic scientism;” went from atheism to Buddhism to Catholicism
  31. Edith Stein – Phenomenologist philosopher who converted to Catholicism and became a Discalced Carmelite nun; declared a saint by John Paul II
  32. Edward Feser – Christian philosopher and author, wrote The Last Superstition: A Refutation of the New Atheism
  33. Emir Kusturica – filmmaker, actor, and musician; although of Muslim ancestry, his father was atheist; took the name “Nemanja” on conversion in
  34. Enoch Powell – Conservative Party (UK) member who converted to Anglicanism
  35. Eugene D. Genovese – historian who went from Stalinist to Catholicism
  36. Evelyn Waugh – British novelist who converted to Catholicism from agnosticism
  37. Fay Weldon – British novelist and feminist
  38. Francis Collins – physician-geneticist, noted for his landmark discoveries of disease genes; director of the National Human Genome Research Institute; former atheist
  39. Fulton Oursler – writer who was raised Baptist, but spent decades as an agnostic before converting; The Greatest Story Ever Told is based on one of his works
  40. G. E. M. Anscombe – analytic philosopher, Thomist, literary executor for Ludwig Wittgenstein, and author of Modern Moral Philosophy; converted to Catholicism as a result of her extensive reading
  41. Gabriel Marcel – leading Christian existentialist; his upbringing was agnostic
  42. George R. Price – geneticist who became an Evangelical Christian and wrote about the New Testament; later he moderated his evangelistic tendencies and switched from religious writing to working with the homeless
  43. Gerald Priestland – news correspondent who discusses having once been the “school atheist” in Something Understood: An Autobiography; became a Quaker after an emotional breakdown
  44. Giovanni Papini – went from pragmatic atheism to Catholicism, also a Fascist
  45. Guillaume Bignon, a Staunch Atheist Who Hated God, Visited Church “As One Visits A Zoo To See Exotic Animals” But Then God Caught Him.


 

SteveB

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  • Holly Ordway – University lecturer whose intellectual journey led to her conversion from atheism to Christianity
  • Howard Storm – Art professor at Northern Kentucky University. Atheist Professor whose Near-death Experience In Hell Changed led him to Jesus Christ
  • Ignace Lepp – French psychiatrist whose parents were freethinkers and who joined the Communist party at age fifteen; broke with the party in and eventually became a Catholic priest
  • Jeffery Dahmer – serial killer and convict who was baptized by Churches of Christ minister Roy Ratcliff
  • Jennifer Fulwiler – her intellectual journey led to her conversion from atheism to Christianity
  • Jessica Jenkins – a devout atheist and a believer in scientific fact.
  • Jim Warner Wallace – was a Cold-Case homicide detective who worked for the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD).
  • John C. Wright – science fiction author who went from atheist to Catholic; Chapter 1 of the book “Atheist to Catholic: 11 Stories of Conversion”, edited by Rebecca Vitz Cherico, is by him
  • John Lawson Stoddard – divinity student who became an agnostic and “scientific humanist;” later he converted to Catholicism; his son Lothrop Stoddard remained agnostic and would be significant to scientific racism
  • John Warwick Montgomery – renowned Christian apologist, Lutheran theologian, and barrister; as a philosophy major in college, he investigated the claims of Christianity “to preserve intellectual integrity” and converted
  • Jonny Lang – blues and rock singer who professed to once “hating” Christianity, before later claiming to have a supernatural encounter with Jesus Christ which led to his conversion
  • Joseph Pearce – anti-Catholic and agnostic British National Front member who became a devoted Catholic writer with a series on EWTN
  • Joy Davidman – poet and wife of C. S. Lewis
  • Julie Burchill – British journalist and feminist
  • Kang Kek Iew (also known as Comrade Duch) – Cambodian director of Phnom Penh’s infamous Tuol Sleng detention center
  • Karl Dallas – British music journalist, author and political activist
  • Keir Hardie – raised atheist and became a Christian Socialist
  • Kirk Cameron – actor noted for his role in Growing Pains
  • Lacey Sturm – musician, former vocalist and lyricist for alternative metal band Flyleaf
  • Larry Darby – former Holocaust denier and former member of the American Atheists
  • Leah Libresco – popular (former) atheist blogger; her search for a foundation for her sense of morality led her to Christianity; she continues her blog under a new name, Unequally Yoked. Her blog readership has increased significantly since her conversion.
  • Lee Strobel – former avowed atheist and journalist for the Chicago Tribune; was converted by his own journalistic research intended to test the veracity of scriptural claims concerning Jesus; author of such apologetic books as The Case for Faith and The Case for Christ
  • Léon Bloy – French author who led to several notable conversions and was himself a convert from agnosticism
  • Maggie Gallagher – conservative activist and a founder of the National Organization for Marriage
  • Malcolm Muggeridge – British journalist and author who went from agnosticism to the Catholic Church
  • Mark Bauerlein – English professor at Emory University and the author of 2008 book The Dumbest Generation, which won at the Nautilus Book Awards
  • Mark Edwards – A rapper and former drug smuggler who was deaf in one ear, found God after being healed by a preacher.
  • Marvin Olasky – former Marxist turned Christian conservative; edits the Christian World magazine
  • Mary Karr – author of The Liars’ Club; Guggenheim Fellow; once described herself as an “undiluted agnostic”, but converted to a self-acknowledged “Cafeteria Catholicism” who embraces Pro-Choice views, amongst others
  • Maurice Baring – English author who converted in his thirties
  • Michael Reiss – British bioethicist, educator, journalist, and Anglican priest; agnostic/secular upbringing
  • Mira Sorvino – Academy Award-winning actress who had been on Humanist lists
  • Mortimer J. Adler – American philosopher, educator, and popular author; converted to Catholicism from agnosticism, after decades of interest in Thomism
  • Nicky Gumbel – Anglican priest known for the Alpha course; from atheism
  • Nicole Cliffe – writer and journalist who co-founded The Toast
  • Nina Karin Monsen – Norwegian moral philosopher and author who grew up in a humanist family, but later converted to Christianity through philosophic thinking
  • Paul Bourget – French author who became agnostic and positivist at , but returned to Catholicism at
  • Paul Jones – musician, of Manfred Mann; previously atheist; in 1967 he argued with Cliff Richard about religion on a TV show
  • Peter Baltes – former heavy metal musician, member of Accept
  • Peter Guirguis
  • Peter Hitchens – journalist who went from Trotskyism to Traditionalist conservatism; estranged brother of the late outspoken anti-theist and Vanity Fair writer Christopher Hitchens
  • Peter Steele – lead singer of Type O Negative
  • R. J. Stove – raised atheist, converted to Catholicism
  • Ray Comfort – evangelist and author.
  • Rodney Stark – a formerly agnostic sociologist of religion.
  • Rosalind Picard – Director of the Affective computing Research Group at the MIT Media Lab; raised atheist, but converted to Christianity in her teens
  • Sally Read – Eric Gregory Award-winning poet who converted to Catholicism
  • Seraphim Rose – Hieromonk and religious writer; in early adulthood he considered non-theist ideas of God and the Philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche that God is dead; became Russian Orthodox in
  • Sigrid Undset – Norwegian Nobel laureate who converted to Catholicism from agnosticism
  • Simon Greenleaf – one of the main founders of Harvard Law School
  • Steve Beren – former member of the Socialist Workers Party (United States) who became a Christian conservative politician
  • Steve Tillman – an ex-atheist who did everything to suppress the idea of God
  • Tamsin Greig – British actress raised as an atheist; converted at
  • Terry A. Davis – American computer programmer who created and designed an entire operating system, TempleOS, by himself. Davis grew up Catholic and was an atheistbefore experiencing a self-described “revelation”. He described the experience as seeming “a lot like mental illness … I felt guilty for being such a technology-advocate atheist … It would sound polite if you said I scared myself thinking about quantum computers.”
  • Victor Turner – A British cultural anthropologist best known for his work on symbols, rituals and rites of passage.
  • Vittorio Messori – Italian journalist and writer called the “most translated Catholic writer in the world” by Sandro Magister; before his conversion in he had a “perspective as a secularist and agnostic”
  • Vladimir Putin – current President of the Russian Federation
  • Dr. Wayne Rossiter – assistant professor of Biology at Waynesburg University and earned his PhD in ecology and evolution from Rutgers University.
  • Whittaker Chambers – former Communist turned conservative writer
  • William J. Murray – author and son of atheist activist Madalyn Murray O’Hair
 

Nouveau

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Not everyone who is educated is smart, and not everyone who is smart is smart when it comes to religion. There are many reasons for conversion, from emotional need to social pressure, but an unbiased evaluation of the evidence is rarely a factor. I definitely got a laugh though at the inclusion of Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron on this list of 'notable converts'.
 

Whatsisface

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Just saw this article. You can indeed continue to argue that your "mere lack of belief" is a superior position, but the only thing you accomplish is to raise the question of why such intelligent people who have excellent educational backgrounds, and professions would cease not believing.

So, take your best stab at it. Since this crowd of atheists on this forum are on the "immediately jump into refutation mode", explain to us why they are traitors, apostates, or whatever it is that you call people who stop being atheist and come to a life-altering change in faith.
What counts here are the reasons for the conversions, not the amount of people on your list and not how intelligent they are in their particular field. People can be intelligent in some ways but not others, an example being what Christians think about Dawkins. It's often said that he's a brilliant biologist but a poor philosopher.

With that in mind, you'd have done better to concentrate on one or two from your list and presented the reasons for each of their conversions for discussion.

I am familiar with the background of a few on your list and frankly, the reasons for their religious beliefs are shockingly poor.
 

SteveB

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Ah yes, Jeffery Dahmer, that paragon of good judgment and Christian virtue.
Actually....

Jesus said that he came to save sinners.

Just what do you think a sinner is?

Sin is the violation of the moral law of God.

Murder is included in this law, and is the 6th commandment.

Exo 20:1-17 WEB 1 God spoke all these words, saying, 2 “I am Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3

You shall have no other gods before me.
4 “You shall not make for yourselves an idol,

nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments. 7

You shall not misuse the name of Yahweh your God,​

for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who misuses his name. 8

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 You shall labor six days, and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to Yahweh your God. You shall not do any work in it, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your livestock, nor your stranger who is within your gates; 11 for in six days Yahweh made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore Yahweh blessed the Sabbath day, and made it holy. 12

Honor your father and your mother,​

that your days may be long in the land which Yahweh your God gives you. 13

You shall not murder. 14​

You shall not commit adultery. 15​

You shall not steal. 16​

You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. 17​

You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”
so, the people who disregard these laws are people who sin, and for whom Jesus came to save.

Are you a sinner? Break any of these laws and according to Jesus, he came to save you.

So, as Jesus said,

Joh 3:16-21 WEB 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only born Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18 He who believes in him is not judged. He who doesn’t believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only born Son of God. 19 This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn’t come to the light, lest his works would be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God.”

What's your druthers?

Salvation from your sin, or continued condemnation, resulting in shame, and eternal contempt?
 

SteveB

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So if we're not sinners, we don't need to be saved?
If you're not willing to acknowledge your sin before YHVH, turn to him from your sin and place your trust in Jesus, then you will perish.


So to show that sin or sinners exists, you'd first need to prove that God exists.
As stated thousands of times over the years, YHVH provides evidence of himself to those who come to him.

You have to decide whether or not you want to know the truth.

What would be sad is that you would exclude yourself because you are too afraid to take responsibility for your sin.
 

Algor

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Nouveau

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If you're not willing to acknowledge your sin before YHVH, turn to him from your sin and place your trust in Jesus, then you will perish.

As stated thousands of times over the years, YHVH provides evidence of himself to those who come to him.

You have to decide whether or not you want to know the truth.

What would be sad is that you would exclude yourself because you are too afraid to take responsibility for your sin.
So no evidence of God and no evidence that we are sinners, so no need for me to be saved. Got it.
 

Algor

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So no evidence of God and no evidence that we are sinners, so no need for me to be saved. Got it.
No, in order to obtain the evidence for God, you need to travel across a continent in the middle of a pandemic to meet an abusive religious enthusiast whom you encountered on the internet. If ONLY you would do that, THEN you would see the light, and if you don't, you're a COWARD!
 

SteveB

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No, in order to obtain the evidence for God, you need to travel across a continent in the middle of a pandemic to meet an abusive religious enthusiast whom you encountered on the internet. If ONLY you would do that, THEN you would see the light, and if you don't, you're a COWARD!
That would appear to make you feel justified in your unbelief.

But meeting with me is not necessary.

Meeting with Jesus however is.

It is after all your eternal existence which is at stake.

The great thing about heaven is that you'll likely never cross my path, so if your disgust and contempt for me is that great, come follow Jesus and I promise to never introduce myself in eternity.
 

SteveB

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So no evidence of God and no evidence that we are sinners, so no need for me to be saved. Got it.
Oh, there's plenty of evidence.
But if you're not actually interested in knowing the truth, you'll get your evidence after it's too late to do anything about it.
 

SteveB

Well-known member
I do have to say that I'm amused by the lack of engagement in the thread itself.

For all the clamoring about how great atheism ,I was expecting atheists to rally against the apostates who abandoned their unbelief.
 

5wize

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Just saw this article. You can indeed continue to argue that your "mere lack of belief" is a superior position, but the only thing you accomplish is to raise the question of why such intelligent people who have excellent educational backgrounds, and professions would cease not believing.

So, take your best stab at it. Since this crowd of atheists on this forum are on the "immediately jump into refutation mode", explain to us why they are traitors, apostates, or whatever it is that you call people who stop being atheist and come to a life-altering change in faith.

List Of Converts From Atheism To Christianity​

By
BP-Pub-1
May 20, 2019
Jim Warner Wallace, Smart Atheist Detective who Became a Christian

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This is a list of over 100 notable converts from non-theism to Christianity.

Jim Warner Wallace, Smart Atheist Detective who Became a Christian
Nontheism means not believing in any gods, which is the same as the broad definition of atheism. The prefixes “a-” and “non-” mean exactly the same thing: not, without, lacking. Each belief system agrees that there are no deities that created or control mankind. Essentially the belief is that man is on their own and will not be helped by a higher power. Many atheists and nontheists believe strongly in science and the scientific method.

Recommended: Lifelong, Famous Atheist Bill Hayden Receives Jesus At 85

Notable Converts From Nontheism To Christianity

  1. A. N. Wilson – biographer and novelist who entered the theological St Stephen’s House, Oxford before proclaiming himself an atheist and writing against religion; announced his return to Christianity in
  2. Akiane Kramarik (and family) – American poet and child prodigy raised as an atheist and converted to Christianity
  3. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn – Nobel Prize-winning dissident author who converted to Russian Orthodoxy
  4. Alexis Carrel – French surgeon and biologist who was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.
  5. Alexis Mason – A Militant Atheist who Turned Christian
  6. Alfred Döblin, German novelist, essayist and doctor, a former convert from Judaism to atheism
  7. Alice Thomas Ellis – born Anna Haycraft, raised in Auguste Comte’s atheistic “church of humanity”, but became a conservative Catholic in adulthood known as Alice Thomas Ellis
  8. Alister McGrath – biochemist and Christian theologian’ founder of “scientific theology” and critic of Richard Dawkins in his book Dawkins’ God: Genes, Memes, and the Meaning of Life
  9. Allan Sandage – prolific astronomer; converted to Christianity later in his life, stating, “I could not live a life full of cynicism. I chose to believe, and a peace of mind came over me.”
  10. Allen Tate – American poet, essayist and social commentator; Poet Laureate Consultant in Poetry to the Library of Congress
  11. Anders Borg – Sweden’s Minister for Finance
  12. André Frossard – French journalist and essayist
  13. Andrew Klavan – Jewish-American writer who went from atheist to agnostic to Christian.
  14. Arnold Lunn – skier, mountaineer, and writer; as an agnostic he wrote Roman Converts, which took a critical view of Catholicism and the converts to it; later converted to Catholicism due to debating with converts, and became an apologist for the faith, although he retained a few criticisms of it
  15. Avery Dulles – Jesuit priest, theologian, and cardinal in the Catholic Church; was raised Presbyterian, but was an agnostic before his conversion to Catholic Christianity
  16. Barak Lurie – A Jewish Atheist
  17. Benedict Ashley – raised humanist; former Communist; became a noted theologian associated with River Forest Thomism
  18. Bernard Nathanson – medical doctor who was a founding member of NARAL, later becoming a pro-life proponent
  19. Bill Hayden – The 21st Governor-General of Australia. In 1996 he was recognised as the Australian Humanist of the Year by the Council of Australian Humanist Societies. Baptized September .
  20. Bo Giertz – Swedish Confessional Lutheran Bishop, theologian, and writer
  21. Bruce Cockburn – Canadian folk/rock guitarist and singer/songwriter (former agnostic)
  22. C. E. M. Joad – English philosopher whose arguing against Christianity, from an agnostic perspective, earned him criticism from T. S. Eliot; turned toward religion later, writing The Recovery of Belief a year before he died and returning to Christianity
  23. C. S. Lewis – Oxford professor and writer; well known for The Chronicles of Narnia series, and for his apologetic Mere Christianity
  24. Chai Ling – Chinese student leader of the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989; converted to evangelical Christianity in 2009
  25. Charles Péguy – French poet, essayist, and editor; went from agnostic humanist to a pro-Republic Catholic.
  26. Claude McKay – bisexual Jamaican poet who went from Communist-leaning atheist to an active Catholic Christian after a stroke
  27. Czesław Miłosz – poet, prose writer, translator and diplomat; was awarded the Neustadt International Prize for Literature, and in 1980 the Nobel Prize in Literature
  28. Dame Cicely Saunders – Templeton Prize and Conrad N. Hilton Humanitarian Prize-winning nurse known for palliative care; converted to Christianity as a young woman

    Recommended: Three Powerful Atheists Who Converted To Christianity (A Must Read)
  29. Dawn Eden Goldstein – rock journalist of Jewish ethnicity; went from an agnostic to a Catholic, who was particularly concerned with the moral values of chastity
  30. E. F. Schumacher – economic thinker known for Small Is Beautiful; his A Guide for the Perplexed criticizes what he termed “materialistic scientism;” went from atheism to Buddhism to Catholicism
  31. Edith Stein – Phenomenologist philosopher who converted to Catholicism and became a Discalced Carmelite nun; declared a saint by John Paul II
  32. Edward Feser – Christian philosopher and author, wrote The Last Superstition: A Refutation of the New Atheism
  33. Emir Kusturica – filmmaker, actor, and musician; although of Muslim ancestry, his father was atheist; took the name “Nemanja” on conversion in
  34. Enoch Powell – Conservative Party (UK) member who converted to Anglicanism
  35. Eugene D. Genovese – historian who went from Stalinist to Catholicism
The western world is considered one of the highest educated cultures in history. Christianity is dying there despite Jeffrey Dahmer's and Ray Comfort's conversion. Call it a spike or an anomaly... bwahahahhahaaaaa....
 

Algor

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The western world is considered one of the highest educated cultures in history. Christianity is dying there despite Jeffrey Dahmer's and Ray Comfort's conversion. Call it a spike or an anomaly... bwahahahhahaaaaa....
I dunno. When we have lost the likes of Ray Comfort, Jeffrey Dahmer and Vladimir Putin, clearly our morals are rotten to the core.
 

SteveB

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No, it justifies me in my assessment of your good, cherubic self.
Well, if that's true, then you're clearly stuck in your biases and preconceptions.

According to Romans 3, there is nobody who is good.

We've all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and are worthy of death.
But he has mercy on us, and has given us his son. Not because we're good,but because we are hopeless and without God in the world.

And what makes it so important for him to want to save us is because he created us in his own likeness and image.

That is what makes us so important to him.
 
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