NeutralSoundingName
Member
If it's that ironic, then maybe it isn't true. Maybe you've misunderstood God's influence in the world.
If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?
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I thought you said "Isaiah 14"?
For the record, I'm a KJVO.
And if the Originals differ from the King James Bible, the Originals are wrong.
CrowCross
Super Member
You spoke of the bible as..."If it's full of apparently contradictory things,"
I can see your point....but I also know for the apparent contradictions scripture is typically ripped out of its context and molded into the so-called contradiction. I find it amazing how people like you and your sect will defend the contradiction at all cost despite being provided with an answer. Even if it's obvious you'll still defend the so-called contradiction based upon a twist inserted by you or your sect....instead of being humble and saying, I see your point on this issue. It's simply not in you to do that.
CrowCross
Super Member
Really? You wanna go there? You might as well throw in the phonebook.
The Quran and the book of Mormon denies who the biblical Jesus is....Jesus' name is not in the phonebook....they are not considered as scripture. They failed the Berean test.
Furion
Well-known member
Maybe you can provide a rational reason why people who have wealth find it difficult to enter the kingdom?
I mean, nevermind the parables and scripture explaining why, you can provide your own reasoning, I'll read it.
I was being gentle in describing the rich and their mentality. I can relate what God says about the rich and why it is difficult for them. I've been both poor and wealthy, I can see the pitfalls.
Not sure what "concept" I missed. Probably true though.
He sure does react strongly to it.
Mixed bag. If you have a propensity for theism it usually survives success and the lottery.
Furion
Well-known member
You don't have to agree with the Lord on the issues of the rich, no. My thinking is He knows better than you.
The concept is the post you responded to, the irony of the rich receiving all they have from the Lord, and turning around and not needing the Lord once their new barns are built.
You know, like Jesus related to us, 'you fool, your very life will be required of you tonight'*, to paraphrase.
*If you don't recognize the reference, I can help.
It depends on what you mean by 'authentic', but it's not generally held to be written by the Peter.
No, that's fine... We'll go with it.
SteveB
Well-known member
Hmm....Us, really. The Bible is supposed to convince us of stuff. If it gets everything wrong (in our eyes) then it's not going to be accepted.
This is what I read in Genesis 1:2-8. God parted the waters and made blue sky from water, with an ethereal "good" backlight. This ethereal backlight then got divided into two hemispheres or something, and rotated around the earth for the first 3 days. The writer apparently did not understand atmospheric scattering of blue light.This confused everyone.
If the Sun Is Created on Day 4, What Is the Light on Day 1? - TheTorah.com
If the sun is created on day four, what is the light on day one? Commentators have struggled with this question for centuries, but ancient cosmology offers a compelling solution. | Dr. Rabbi Zev Farberwww.thetorah.com
Ever study cosmology or astrophysics?
In 2005, I took an astrophysics course at the university as part of my physics program. I returned to college as part of my cancer recovery plan, in my late thirties and early forties.
One of the items discussed was that upon the creation of a star, there's light (not optical) that exceeds the speed of light, which is emitted from the star.
While light from our star only takes ~8 and a third minutes to reach the earth, the creation of the cosmos would result in a massive burst of light and energy. Aka, God said, let there be light....
So, I'm not bothered with this issue because there are numerous things that we simply have not yet learned about the cosmos.
For example, this morning I saw a news report that they've found that the big bang theory is sufficiently inept that they no longer believe that the big bang is the cause for the origin of the cosmos.
Surprise: the Big Bang isn't the beginning of the universe anymore
We used to think the Big Bang meant the universe began from a singularity. Nearly 100 years later, we're not so sure.
bigthink.com
It's actually an interesting article.
Don't let what you don't actually know, define what you believe because what you think happened doesn't make sense to you.
According to Philo, he thought that God was playing a joke on atheists to get them to realize they don't have any idea what they're talking about.
Here's another thought for you.
Ever worked in a workshop to build anything?
Ever seen anyone else do it?
Ever notice that the workers have to turn on the lights before they start working?
Before I had the cancer, i was a journeyman sheet metal worker.
I needed light to see what I was doing.
So, when I walked into the shop, or if i got on the jobsite and it was still dark, I'd find lighting to get some light to see what i was doing.
Standard practice!
God created the cosmos and then set about to start working on earth. He needed a light to see what he was doing, so he said- let there be light.
If you've ever actually paid attention to what the sunlight does in lighting the earth.... it has a nasty habit of leaving shadows in certain places/areas.
God decided that he wanted to focus on his work without any shadows preventing him.
Furthermore, we read in the new testament that God is Light, and in him there is no darkness.
As such, we can pretty readily observe that God simply flipped his own light switch on.
Don't assume that you know what you have no background for.
SteveB
Well-known member
Yep. Another person who confirms the veracity of the bible.
Man! You guys are doing this exactly the way YHVH says you would!
Congratulations! You're batting 1000!
consider the prophet to be a fool, and the man who is inspired to be insane, because of the abundance of your sins, and because your hostility is great.
Keep it up nickel.
Eightcrackers
Well-known member
No ominpotent being needs anything.
SteveB
Well-known member
Thus, he made his own light.
Now that's exactly what every cult claims now isn't it... that the outside world will condemn them.
Mr Laurier
Well-known member
Yep.
The Bank of Canada has never issued a 3, or 4, or 6, or 7, or 8, or 9, dollar bill.
So right away, these bills are NOT legal tender
SteveB
Well-known member
Then you're more than welcome to destroy yourself.
I think everyone who is terrified learning the truth for themselves should be able to offer up endless excuses.
Have fun with that! 🤦🏾♂️
Bingo! good job!
Eightcrackers
Well-known member
Did he need it?