Not days separated by light and dark.
The Bible is explaining light and dark, not spin.
Based on the sun.
If God wanted people to become X, why not write the bible properly?
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So if you answered Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John on a test, it would count against you?
The sun is the source of the worlds light. No sun, no light. Do you know what the ancient cosmologists actually thought about this?
At Moody's? - No. At Seminary? - yes.
Since Day Four, that is correct.
Remember my creationism test?
Here it is again, with the appropriate questions highlighted:
1. Explain the difference between creatio ex nihilo and creatio ex materia; and give two examples of each.
2. Explain the difference between "God" and "LORD God".
3. Eden in the Bible is known as __________ on a secular map.
4. What literary device reconciles Genesis 1 and Genesis 2?
5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.
6. What day was Adam created on?
7. Was the universe created a closed system and, if not, what kind of energy did it run off of? if it was created open, what closed it?
8. Describe terra aqua and what kind of water it consisted of and why.
9. Photosynthesis required light from the sun prior to the Fall. true or false?
10. Explain how a 24-hour day could transpire before the sun was created.
11. Explain the difference between "miracles" and "magic."
12. When discussing Creationism, why should one never let himself stray from Genesis 1 or 2?
13. Why is "heaven" singular in Genesis 1, but plural in Genesis 2?
I'd rather stay focused. Odd this mystery light source would separate day and night just like the sun does. Did the bible tell us why the replacement was put there given that night and day was established?
You do realize that the entire range of light is called the electromagnetic spectrum, do you not?
Are you getting at something? Do you know what the ancient cosmologists thought about the Genesis account?
P.S. The electromagnetic spectrum only contains light in the slice experienced and defined by us... it consists end to end of exactly what its title infers.
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Yes.
God created the light, then He created the sources of the light.
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If you're talking about that "solid dome" stuff, yes, I'm familiar with it.
I'm sure a bunch of them had it wrong.
Just like academians do today.
Truth of the matter is, they did not have access to the tools that we have today.
And we still get it wrong.
And before you say anything, I believe a handful of people, starting with Adam, had some insights into our solar system than we have today.
So all this stuff about Adam writing about the sky being a solid dome and other such nonsense can take a hike.
Why did the sun need to be created? Day and night was handled already. Ancient cosmologists thought there was a source of light behind the sun, and if the sun were to go out, it would still be there. this is the basis of the Christian creation narrative regarding the sun and day and night. Do you believe that?
Some people, as do I, believe the sun and stars are angels' dwelling places.
It is possible that our sun was Lucifer's home, until he rebelled.
Michael probably lives there now.
But that's just speculation.
And before you ask ...
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Morning stars = angels.
You're making this all up aren't you.
No.
Can you show me a rational authority and a logic behind these beliefs?
stiggy wiggy
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Because it's an awesome ball of fire, and because it makes plants green and feels warm when its rays touch us, and it produces beautiful sunrises and sunsets, and it evaporates our water to be used elsewhere and it gives pale women a splendid tan.
Plants were the third day.
And your problem with that is...?
Yes.
Magic tree? Are you on the dope, son?
Except that it didn't tell the truth. That's the whole point of Eve being deceived.
Actually, it was Lucifer who became Satan, not the serpent. The serpent wasn't actually Satan. Satan doesn't have the ability to turn himself into animals.
For example?
Who says God can't kill humans?
How do you know He "forgot?" Perhaps plants, due to their biological nature, don't need the same care as people and animals.
Where does the Bible say God was "intimidated" or that they already had confused languages?
Believing in a religion because you don't like the idea of Hell is reasonable, but it isn't the reason the Bible gives,
Actually, there are several mentions of sheol in the OT. Due to semantic range, sheol can mean anything from simply, "the place of the dead", to what we know as Hell. That Hell had not been fullly revealed to the Jews doesn't mean they had no concept of Hell, or did not mention it.
In the New Testament, Jesus talks about Hell several times to a Jewish audience, and each time, with the shared assumption that His audience understood and believed in it.
Like what?
Actually, Jesus did die for the elect, but was then resurrected, which, by definition, could not have happened unless He died first.
First, how is Matthew the "main book of the NT"? I think most Christian theologians would agree that Romans is the "main book".
Second, the New Testament lists four primary reasons Christ was resurrected:
1) To show that God accepted His sacrifice
2) To show His mastery over sin and death
3) To fulfill prophecy
4) To be a testimony to us that we, also, will be raised
Why would "grace" and salvation be found in Matthew, when that's not what the book is about? Matthew, although included in the New Testament, is a book by and about Jews living under the Old Covenant, under the law. Christ had not yet died and fulfilled the law or the Old Covenant, and so salvation was not grace based, but works based.
Actually, Paul did meet Christians. Many of them. The Bible includes his correspondence to them and he is mentioned by other New Testament authors.
Second, yes, Paul murdered Christians. Your point? If Christianity is not about the forgiveness of sin, and Christ's ability to forgive sins and impart a new nature, then what is it about?
Actually, Matthew only tells Jews to follow Jewish law. There were literally no Christians in Matthew.
See 2 Tim 3:16
Actually, most of the books begin with an introduction of the author by name, particularly the Pauline epistles.
Who says God is "almost losing"?
Verse?
Really? Are the other things on the list as silly as the ones you've said so far?
stiggy wiggy
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Oh and I forgot: It gives us time zones, and it is easy for kids to draw, and it warms the ocean waters so we can go swimming at beaches, and it has massive gravity, allowing it to attract our earth so that the earth revolves around it, creating different seasons. And it gives us juicy eclipses.
stiggy wiggy
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Great response. It's hard to know which is worse with this guy. The ignorance or the arrogance. Not a good combination.