Kade Rystalmane
Well-known member
"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Heb. 4:15)
I affirm that Jesus is fully God (Col. 2:9). I believe Calvinists do as well (if I'm wrong, please correct me.)
If we also accept that Jesus is fully human then there are some issues that Calvinism must address.
1. If Jesus is fully human, did He have a "sin nature"?
2. If Jesus is fully human, and did not have a sin nature, how was He in all points tempted like as we are tempted?
3. If Jesus is fully human, and was in all points tempted like as we are tempted, yet without sin, can we do the same?
4. Did Jesus have supernatural help in some way that we don't have to avoid sinning?
5. Could He actually, really have sinned at all?
6. If Jesus had supernatural assistance in some way that we don't have to avoid sinning or if He couldn't actually have really sinned, how is He a meaningful, functional representative sacrifice for us?
7. Does Jesus have free will?
8. If Jesus has free will and we do not, how was He tempted like as we are tempted?
and finally...
9. If Jesus has free will and was in all points tempted like as we are tempted, does this not demand the conclusion that we, too, have free will?
I'm sure these questions can be phrased better and most likely have been addressed before. I did not see this topic in the first couple of pages in the A & C forum, so forgive me for the repetition. I do hope folks who read this can see what I'm getting at here.
In Truth and Love.
I affirm that Jesus is fully God (Col. 2:9). I believe Calvinists do as well (if I'm wrong, please correct me.)
If we also accept that Jesus is fully human then there are some issues that Calvinism must address.
1. If Jesus is fully human, did He have a "sin nature"?
2. If Jesus is fully human, and did not have a sin nature, how was He in all points tempted like as we are tempted?
3. If Jesus is fully human, and was in all points tempted like as we are tempted, yet without sin, can we do the same?
4. Did Jesus have supernatural help in some way that we don't have to avoid sinning?
5. Could He actually, really have sinned at all?
6. If Jesus had supernatural assistance in some way that we don't have to avoid sinning or if He couldn't actually have really sinned, how is He a meaningful, functional representative sacrifice for us?
7. Does Jesus have free will?
8. If Jesus has free will and we do not, how was He tempted like as we are tempted?
and finally...
9. If Jesus has free will and was in all points tempted like as we are tempted, does this not demand the conclusion that we, too, have free will?
I'm sure these questions can be phrased better and most likely have been addressed before. I did not see this topic in the first couple of pages in the A & C forum, so forgive me for the repetition. I do hope folks who read this can see what I'm getting at here.
In Truth and Love.