In Roman Catholic History, Did That "Church" Ever Feel Threatened?

RayneBeau

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Today does the RCC feel threatened by the growth of "believers" in the unaltered gospel of Jesus Christ, and leave the RCC? Wasn't there a time when the RCC imprisoned those who left the Roman Catholic Church/ "faith", and embraced the pure gospel of Jesus Christ? Would the apostles have done such?
 

Atemi

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Today does the RCC feel threatened by the growth of "believers" in the unaltered gospel of Jesus Christ, and leave the RCC?

Our churches today are packed with ex-Roman Catholics who have left the spiritual bankruptcy and dead ritualism of RCism.

Their hero, JPII, said Christ followers are “rapacious wolves...causing division and discord in our communities.”

Oh....they are threatened!
 

pilgrim

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Our churches today are packed with ex-Roman Catholics who have left the spiritual bankruptcy and dead ritualism of RCism.

Their hero, JPII, said Christ followers are “rapacious wolves...causing division and discord in our communities.”

Oh....they are threatened!
No, not at all.

Mat 16: And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
 

PeanutGallery

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No, not at all.

Mat 16: And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Acts 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
 

balshan

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Today does the RCC feel threatened by the growth of "believers" in the unaltered gospel of Jesus Christ, and leave the RCC? Wasn't there a time when the RCC imprisoned those who left the Roman Catholic Church/ "faith", and embraced the pure gospel of Jesus Christ? Would the apostles have done such?
I have read through the RCs replies and not one answers the op. The RC used to love to torture, maim and murder those who disagree with them, throughout the centuries. Now they besmirch ex RCs by saying they were bad students, do not understand RC teachings, calling them heretics etc.
 

romishpopishorganist

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Today does the RCC feel threatened by the growth of "believers" in the unaltered gospel of Jesus Christ, and leave the RCC?
Does the RCC feel threatened by Protestant fundamentalism? I can't speak for entire RCC on this, I can only speak for myself. I do not see Protestant fundamentalism as much of a threat. Catholics who are secure in their Faith won't be taken in by it. Protestant fundamentalists tend to prey on Catholics who have never read the Bible, do not know their Faith, or otherwise are Catholic but have no idea why.

That said: Generation Z seems to me to be brainwashed into the tenants of radical leftist thought. Generation Z is the future--and I find that to be rather horrifying. The Millennials and generations below them---seem not to have any ability to think for themselves or otherwise exercise any type of rational, logical thought. The allow their passions and emotions to rule the day rather than reason and logic.

My point? You Protestant fundamentalists have never understood that Catholicism and Catholics are not the enemy. Satan is the enemy--and Satan is very much alive and well in secular society. Instead of directing your efforts attacking Catholicism and Catholics, you would be better advised to stand with Catholics against the radical secularization of society and the radical left that threatens ALL of Christianity. As you can see---the radical left has even infiltrated the Catholic Church and is operative at the highest levels. THAT is what we should all be standing against, rather than attacking each other.

In other words: we are on many of the issues, on the same side. You radical fundamentalist types seem to forget that. Instead of obsessing over Catholics and Mary, Purgatory, etc, you should be standing with them against the real enemy.
Wasn't there a time when the RCC imprisoned those who left the Roman Catholic Church/ "faith", and embraced the pure gospel of Jesus Christ?
No. It was heretics the Church went after.
Would the apostles have done such?
Gone after heretics and stamped them out? Yes. I can't imagine the apostles would have tolerated heresy.
 

Atemi

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Where in NT do you see or read about Jesus or his apostles doing torturing, burnings, or inquisitions?

I am sure they think that is all part of "binding and loosing." :rolleyes:

As a Catholic, I was taught to "love my neighbor"....AND I was also taught that burning people alive because they did not believe as the Catholic Masters demanded IS "love."

Catholics have argued endlessly with me that them brutally killing other people because of their religious beliefs is the height of "love" because it often "saved" them and other people. Ya know, they were doing those people a favor.

We need to remember that when we talk to devout Catholics, they may use a lot of the right words and may say "Jesus" a lot, but they actually believe deep down what I say above.
 

Atemi

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Catholics who are secure in their Faith won't be taken in by it.

Mormons, JW, and cultists say the same. What they also mean by "secure in their Faith" is that they believe their sect leaders cannot possibly be wrong. Of course, when one believe that their sect leaders cannot possibly be wrong, they will not believe anything else. That is the point. LOL.


My point? You Protestant fundamentalists have never understood that Catholicism and Catholics are not the enemy.

Catholicism serves him. All lies do.


Satan is the enemy--and Satan is very much alive and well in secular society.

And very much alive in Catholic society.

Instead of directing your efforts attacking Catholicism and Catholics, you would be better advised to stand with Catholics against the radical secularization of society and the radical left that threatens ALL of Christianity.

Marxist ideology IS your "social doctrine."

Catholics are on the forefront of the radical secularization of society and pushing radical Marxist ideas. I talk to Catholics all the time, and they tend to be pro baby killing, pro illegal immigration, pro socialism, pro LGBTQ++++++, pro massive government control, anti bill of rights, and insist "good" people are saved whether they believe in Jesus or not, etc...

They learned this from your sect. They will be loyal leftists.


As you can see---the radical left has even infiltrated the Catholic Church and is operative at the highest levels.

Yes! We see!

That is what I just told you.

You are party to this. You argue that we should not oppose it.


THAT is what we should all be standing against, rather than attacking each other.

Catholics, by and large, are NOT doing that.

Catholics are now leftist and anti Gospel. Congrats!


Would the apostles have done such?
Gone after heretics and stamped them out? Yes.

Yeah. This blood lust is why so many Catholics have argued with me that that is why their sect "stamped" so many others out by burning them alive. If you were alive then, you would have participated in it.
 

romishpopishorganist

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Mormons, JW, and cultists say the same.
You wouldn't say the same to an atheist and their infantile arguments against Christianity? "Christian secure in their Faith won't be swayed by your childish arguments." You wouldn't say that to an atheist?
What they also mean by "secure in their Faith" is that they believe their sect leaders cannot possibly be wrong.
We don't believe our leaders can never be wrong. Do you live under a rock? Are you totally unaware of all the criticisms against Pope Francis?
Of course, when one believe that their sect leaders cannot possibly be wrong, they will not believe anything else. That is the point. LOL.
Yeah--this is why a lot of Catholics and even bishops publicly criticize Pope Francis--cause we believe our leaders are never wrong and we just believe whatever they tell us.
Catholicism serves him. All lies do.
No, Catholicism does not serve Satan at all.
And very much alive in Catholic society. Marxist ideology IS your "social doctrine."

Catholics are on the forefront of the radical secularization of society and pushing radical Marxist ideas.
No, MARXISTS and LEFTISTS MASCURADING as Catholics are on the forefront of this.
I talk to Catholics all the time, and they tend to be pro baby killing, pro illegal immigration, pro socialism, pro LGBTQ++++++, pro massive government control, anti bill of rights, and insist "good" people are saved whether they believe in Jesus or not, etc...
And you think----radical leftists masquerading as Catholics----are good examples and representatives of Catholicism, do you?

This would be like me thinking the likes of Joe Osteen or Kenneth Copeland are good representatives of Protestantism.
They learned this from your sect. They will be loyal leftists.
They learned no such thing from my sect!
Catholics, by and large, are NOT doing that. Catholics are now leftist and anti Gospel. Congrats!
No, radical, extremist leftists masquerading as Catholics are anti-Gospel.
Yeah. This blood lust is why so many Catholics have argued with me that that is why their sect "stamped" so many others out by burning them alive. If you were alive then, you would have participated in it.
Yeah, I probably would have.

But all of us likely would have been calling for Christ to be crucified too. I think it is arrogance to believe otherwise.
 

PeanutGallery

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No. It was heretics the Church went after.

Gone after heretics and stamped them out? Yes. I can't imagine the apostles would have tolerated heresy.
Where in NT do you see or read about Jesus or his apostles doing torturing, burnings, or inquisitions?
Nowhere.

Next question.
If not from scripture, Jesus, nor apostles, where did RCC get God's command to do torturing, burnings, or inquisitions?
 
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