Infidels, Take A Brief Peek Into The Devotional Life Of We Bible Believers.

The New Testament teaches the following:

You, now as an unregenerated sinner, are totally dead spiritually.

You cannot understand spiritual truth.
I can understand spiritual truth: Suffering, Origin, Cessation and Path. Though I will grant that is Buddhist spiritual truth, not Christian spiritual truth.

All you can now understand is bits and pieces of the confusion that is the World of Secularism.

You, being totally dead to spiritual truth, need help to break out of your deadness.

You cannot do that in your own strength.
Again, you are telling me that it is pointless for me to do anything, since any and all actions I can take will be ineffective.

You must have supernatural help from the Holy Spirit in order to understand spiritual truths.
Again, it is not up to me, but up to the Holy Spirit. There is no requirement for me to do anything, it is all up to the Holy Spirit. I assume He can find me just as easily if I am in the pub as if I am in a church.

If you never get supernatural help then you will continue to post as you do, endlessly
arguing against all biblical truths that would help you break free of your bondage.
In many cases I argue for Biblical truths, those that are shared with Buddhism:
  • You shall not kill.
  • You shall not steal.
  • You shall not commit adultery.
  • You shall not bear false witness.
  • Love your neighbour as yourself.
I argue for all of those, because they are good Buddhism, as well as good Christianity. You are making some incorrect assumptions about me.

You MUST be regenerated in order to understand spiritual truths.
Fine, then I will wait for the Holy Spirit to regenerate me. He can find me down the pub.
 
I can understand spiritual truth: Suffering, Origin, Cessation and Path. Though I will grant that is Buddhist spiritual truth, not Christian spiritual truth.


Again, you are telling me that it is pointless for me to do anything, since any and all actions I can take will be ineffective.


Again, it is not up to me, but up to the Holy Spirit. There is no requirement for me to do anything, it is all up to the Holy Spirit. I assume He can find me just as easily if I am in the pub as if I am in a church.


In many cases I argue for Biblical truths, those that are shared with Buddhism:
  • You shall not kill.
  • You shall not steal.
  • You shall not commit adultery.
  • You shall not bear false witness.
  • Love your neighbour as yourself.
I argue for all of those, because they are good Buddhism, as well as good Christianity. You are making some incorrect assumptions about me.


Fine, then I will wait for the Holy Spirit to regenerate me. He can find me down the pub.
"Fine, then I will wait for the Holy Spirit to regenerate
me. He can find me down [at] the pub."__rossum


Noted.

Meanwhile ponder these Bible truths:

The Lord Jesus said that if you do not believe that He
was who He claimed to be, that you "will die in your sins."
John 8:24

"Our gospel . . . . is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of
this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so that they cannot
see the light of the gospel."
2 Cor. 4:3-4

Christendom's most well-known Bible verse, John 3:16, offers all
people a simple choice:
(1) believe in the Lord Jesus and receive the gift of eternal life.
(2) refuse to believe and experience John 3:16's perish

Best

JAG

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The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so that they cannot see the light of the gospel.
And you want me to go against what God has decided for me? If God wants me to be blind, then who am I to do different?

To avoid all evil,​
to cultivate good,​
and to meditate –​
this is the teaching of the Buddhas.​
– Dhammapada 14:5​

The Buddha has not blinded anyone.
 
And you want me to go against what God has decided for me? If God wants me to be blind, then who am I to do different?

To avoid all evil,​
to cultivate good,​
and to meditate –​
this is the teaching of the Buddhas.​
– Dhammapada 14:5​

The Buddha has not blinded anyone.
Just curious.

Does the Buddha proclaim as sin the following?

(1) sodomy Yes or No

(2) sex before marriage (aka fornication) Yes or No

(3) hard core pornography Yes or No

JAG

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Just curious.

Does the Buddha proclaim as sin the following?

(1) sodomy Yes or No

(2) sex before marriage (aka fornication) Yes or No

(3) hard core pornography Yes or No
Oh, and here is another:

(4) picking up sticks on the Sabbath

That is so serious it warrants a death sentence!
 
Just curious.

Does the Buddha proclaim as sin the following?
Buddhism is not an Abrahamic religion. It is often an error to assume that concepts from the Abrahamic religions transfer across into Buddhism without checking first. This is a case in point, Buddhism does not have the concept of 'sin'. Instead it has wise actions and unwise actions. Wise actions produce happiness, while unwise actions produce suffering.

Mind precedes all conditions,​
mind is their chief, they are mind-made.​
If you speak or act with an evil mind then suffering will follow you,​
as the wheel follows the draught ox.​
Mind precedes all conditions,​
mind is their chief, they are mind-made.​
If you speak or act with a pure mind then happiness will follow you,​
as a shadow that never leaves.​
– Dhammapada 1:1-2​

As the text indicates, the state of mind behind the action is important.

(1) sodomy Yes or No
As with Christianity you can find opinions either way in Buddhism. Where allowed, it must be between consenting adults and any promises to spouses, such as remaining faithful, must be kept.

(2) sex before marriage (aka fornication) Yes or No
Buddhism did not originally have an equivalent of marriage, it recognised whatever local customs were already in place. Hence before or after marriage is not a relevant question in Buddhism. Again, consenting adults are required, and any promises to spouses must be kept.

(3) hard core pornography Yes or No
A matter of motive. Showing a picture of Michelangelo's David (sans fig leaf) may be considered pornography, or it may not. For an art appreciation class it might not; in other circumstances it might be. A medical textbook may have very explicit images of human surface anatomy, but would not generally be considered pornographic.

Alternatively, a photo of a woman's feet might be pornographic to a foot fetishist, but not to anyone else. The definition of what is, and what is not, pornography is slippery.
 
"Jesus made that one go away."

Sorry - "Jesus fulfilled the old covenant."
It is strange, though, that this was so serious the Bible makes a point of recording a man losing his life for disobeying it, and yet is so trivial God does not care about it from ca. AD 30 onwards.

I feel sorry for the guy stoned to death for doing something that was morally wrong, but perfectly fine a few centuries later.
 
No, I've been to church and read the Bible.
That has not brought me to a position of knowing that what they claim is truth.
Whether you believe the truth or not is irrelevant to the task at hand.

You heard and understood the gospel of Jesus Christ, the knowledge of the truth.

So we have the situation where God told us one of His desires, you hear the gospel of His Son. You have done so, you make your choices, it is complete.
 
Whether you believe the truth or not is irrelevant to the task at hand.

You heard and understood the gospel of Jesus Christ, the knowledge of the truth.

So we have the situation where God told us one of His desires, you hear the gospel of His Son. You have done so, you make your choices, it is complete.
Whether it actually is the truth is relevant to the task at hand.
I heard and understood the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I have seen nothing that would show it to be the truth and cause me to believe it.
 
Whether it actually is the truth is relevant to the task at hand.
That is your journey of discovery.

My suggestion is to not squander it arguing with men about it.
I heard and understood the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I have seen nothing that would show it to be the truth and cause me to believe it.
That is really the whole point. It is one of the stated desires of God, for you to hear and understand what Christ has done for you.

I cannot and will not argue God into your life. It is entirely yours to realize or not as no man can increase your desire for God either.
 
(4) picking up sticks on the Sabbath

That is so serious it warrants a death sentence!

I've told you this before. You're not a Jew wandering in the wilderness thousands of years ago. So you're OK. So why not plan on a big stick gathering party next Saturday? Or you can just pick 'em up and put 'em right back down to show off your freedom.
 
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