Interesting article on religious doubts

[bigthinker]

How the hell can He rescue people who refuse His rescue?

This implies that man is more powerful than God/Jesus and that God's plan can be thwarted by man.
Also, refusing to be rescue is exactly what man needs to be rescued from.

A drowning person will often fight with their rescuer.
A child will often fight being put in a car seat.
That doesn't mean the drowning person shouldn't be rescued or that the child shouldn't be buckled in.

How long till you decide that a giraffe is a reptile?



...... he sputters.



Then why should I care?

 

[The Pixie]

How the hell can He rescue people who refuse His rescue?

I thought he was all-powerful.

I thought that was what you said he did.

But of course, within an hour of saying it, you have changed your mind, as I said you would.

How long till you decide that a giraffe is a reptile?

About as long as it will take you to come clear about what you believe God does to those who reject Jesus, which is to say, it will never happen.

Then why should I care?

You tell me. Every time I point out that Christianity implicitly says God tortures billions, you respond. If you do not care, do not respond.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

I thought he was all-powerful.

You thought wrong. As usual.

I thought that was what you said he did.

He does.

But of course, within an hour of saying it, you have changed your mind, as I said you would.

And yet I didn't, so your moronic prediction fizzled as they all do.

 

[The Pixie]

You thought wrong. As usual.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Admitting God is not all-powerful is the simplest solution to the problem of evil. There is cancer in children because God is impotent to stop it.

Once we accept that God is impotent to stop all the bad stuff happening, it makes a lot more sense. Let us face it, we are talking about a god thwarted by iron chariots.

Judges 1:19 The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron.​

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Thanks for clearing that up.

Admitting God is not all-powerful is the simplest solution to the problem of evil.

Sure is. You learned something from me. God is not powerful enough to make square circles, nor to force free will creatures such as yourself NOT to compose idiotic posts.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

A drowning person will often fight with their rescuer.

BINGO! First time I've seen good results from that big thinking of yours.
Fight away!

 

[The Pixie]

Sure is. You learned something from me. God is not powerful enough to make square circles, nor to force free will creatures such as yourself NOT to compose idiotic posts.

Or cure cancer, or stop rapists, or really do much at all.

Oh, except jam tomorrow. That he can do.

 

[bigthinker]

BINGO! First time I've seen good results from that big thinking of yours.
Fight away!

That says a lot about you, Stig.

 

[bigthinker]

BINGO! First time I've seen good results from that big thinking of yours.
Fight away!

A Christian was arguing that God's attempt to reach those who need rescuing is easily thwarted by minor resistence. The implication is that God is only capable of rescuing those who want to be saved but has no power over those who resist. That idea is an excuse.

 

[bigthinker]

Sure is. You learned something from me. God is not powerful enough to make square circles, nor to force free will creatures such as yourself NOT to compose idiotic posts.

Square circles are not the problem.
The problem is that your God is incapable of doing that which is possible.
Your God doesn't even make round circles.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Or cure cancer, or stop rapists, or really do much at all.

How many universes have you created an sustained for billions of years? How many species of life have you created from scratch? ZERO? You're quite a weakling by comparison, eh?

Oh, except jam tomorrow.

You might want to retire that one. It's old enough to receive disability.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

.......has no power over those who resist.

Correct. He's big on free will.
Is that to big a thought for your big thinking brain?

 

[stiggy wiggy]

The problem is that your God is incapable of doing that which is possible.

You think it's possible to FORCE free will acts? Lol

My, what a small thought for an alleged big thinker!

 

[bigthinker]

Correct. He's big on free will.
Is that to big a thought for your big thinking brain?

Another excuse for God's weakness.

 

[bigthinker]

You think it's possible to FORCE free will acts?

You're right, God is powerless against free will. He is weak.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

You're right, God is powerless against free will. He is weak.

Hilarious. Coerced freedom. Keep those "big thoughts" coming. We all need levity.

 

[bigthinker]

Hilarious. Coerced freedom. Keep those "big thoughts" coming. We all need levity.

Think about it, your God gave free will to man but is powerless against it.
Like a weak whiny parent who can't control their kids.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Think about it, your God gave free will to man but is powerless against it.
Like a weak whiny parent who can't control their kids.

LOL.. So you think a strong parent can force a rebellious child to love it.

These thoughts keep getting smaller and smaller, "Big" Thinker.

 

[bigthinker]

LOL.. So you think a strong parent can force a rebellious child to love it.

ah, trying to move the goalposts, eh?
Not love, rescue.
But that's another characteristic of your God: neediness.
He's weak and needs to be loved.
What a pathetic God.

You aren't thinking at all, stig.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Not love, rescue.

Rescues can be freely rejected. Remember Wrong Way Feldman?