Invocation worship and prayer

Newbirth

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You are confused. I never asserted that.

The Greek word "charis" was referred to here:
So why is Paul saying Jesus has a God?
Ephesians 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
 

Newbirth

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Paul worshiped Jesus because Paul knew Jesus is God.
Paul says Jesus has a God...
Ephesians 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Explain why Paul is saying Jesus has a God.
 

Newbirth

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No, Paul believed in only one God (Galatians 3:20). He also knew that in addition to the Father that the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of worship.
And that God is the father...that is why he says Jesus has a God...
 

Newbirth

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Which accords with what is written in post 82.
Paul does not teach Jesus is God... Paul teaches Jesus has a God...
Ephesians 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
 

Newbirth

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And the Father sees to it that the Bible affirms the Lord Jesus is God (Romans 10:13).
Nope your denial of the truth is noted...
Romans 15:6
That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 1:3
Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
Colossians 1:3
We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
 

Fred

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Jesus received the Worship and Glory while on the earth and in Revelation receives the same honor,glory,praise and worship the Father receives in heaven. Jesus must be God Incarnate !

Excellent point!

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years. (NASB)

A priest of a false god worships a false god (1 Samuel 5:5; 2 Kings 10:19; Jeremiah 48:7; Acts 14:13).
A priest of Christ worships Christ - and since only God is to be worshiped proves the Lord Jesus is God.
 

Fred

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1 John 5:14-15
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This is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests which we have asked from Him.

The above which teaches the Lord Jesus is the proper receipient of prayer (I would also add v. 16 in that believers are to "ask" the Lord Jesus) demonstrates He is God. In fact, the nearest antecedent for "Him" in v. 14 refers to "the Son of God" in verse 13. I believe this is another proof that the pronoun in 1 John 5:20 is in reference to the Lord Jesus being "the true God." Your post about this is very good.
 

Newbirth

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Excellent point!

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years. (NASB)

A priest of a false god worships a false god (1 Samuel 5:5; 2 Kings 10:19; Jeremiah 48:7; Acts 14:13).
A priest of Christ worships Christ - and since only God is to be worshiped proves the Lord Jesus is God.
God exalted Jesus and gave him a name above all names...Jesus has a God. you cannot deny that Jesus has a God... This is your chance to make your claim...does Jesus have a God... yes or no?
 
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