Is Election a Heavenly blessing ?

Reformedguy

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Tom says what the bible says

Romans 4:16 (KJV)
16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

Romans 4:1-5 (KJV)
1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

not your false statement
What was false about it? If faith is not a gift then you choose to exercise it on your own. You get the credit and therefore are rewarded with salvation.
 
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TomFL

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No the gift is in Ephesians 2:8. Try staying with the text, ie the “ context”.
Sorry but grammar and syntax does concern the context

Ephesians 2:8, 9 is therefore the key passage: “For by grace [instrumental case, t chariti, by the instrumentality of grace] you have been saved [periphrastic perfect, looking at the present condition that flows from the prior act] through faith [dia plus the genitive, intermediate agency]; and this [neuter touto] not of you, the gift of God; not of works, in order that one may not boast. There are two reasons, one grammatical and one syntactical, for insisting that “this” does not refer back to “faith.” Grammatically, “faith” is feminine and “this” is neuter. Only an unnatural stretching of the possibilities of Greek grammar can read “faith” as the antecedent of “this.” Syntactically, the fact (often overlooked) is that there are three complements of “this” which follow it: (1) “this” (is) not of you, (2) “this” (is) God’s gift, (3) “this” (is) not of works, lest anyone boast. To read “faith” with “this” might make some kind of sense for the first two of these, but it will not work with the third: “this faith is not of works” would be nonsensical tautology in view of the fact that works is in contrast to faith already. In Ephesians 2:8, 9, therefore, “this” has for its antecedent the entire preceding clause. This fits the “rules” of Greek grammar that called for a neuter pronoun to refer to a verbal idea, and it makes perfectly good sense in the context. “By grace you have been saved by faith: and this saving experience is not of you but is the gift of God, not of works lest any boast.”



Picirilli, Robert. Grace Faith Free Will: Contrasting Views of Salvation: Calvinism & Arminianism (p. 166). Ingram Distribution. Kindle Edition.
 
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TomFL

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What was false about it? If faith is not a gift then you choose to exercise it on your own. You get the credit and therefore are rewarded with salvation.
What is false ids that scripture calls it grace denies fiath it is work or salvation is a reward
 

Reformedguy

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What is false ids that scripture calls it grace denies fiath it is work or salvation is a reward
In your nutty theology it is a reward. You managed to come to faith that is your own, it's not a gift, and therefore are rewarded for it. You get some of the credit at least right? Congrats
 
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TomFL

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In your nutty theology it is a reward. You managed to come to faith that is your own, it's not a gift, and therefore are rewarded for it. You get some of the credit at least right? Congrats
Again scripture demonstrated your error
 
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