Is Freedom forever doomed?

Thistle

Well-known member
"This is what Americans who value free speech are up against. This is what Americans who want to resist leftist answers to the issues of trade, energy and the environment, immigration, foreign policy, deregulation, education and free speech are up against. The events of January 6 gave these companies, along with their other corporate and political partners on the Left, an excuse to clamp down harder and faster on free speech and on the people who still oppose their plans.


The only possible glimmer of hope in all this is the possibility they have not done “too little, too late,” but too much, too soon. They’ve shown their hand. Perhaps more people will walk away. Perhaps more people will take the red pill. Perhaps more people will realize that Trump wasn’t their enemy; that he was fighting for them; that he was fighting for all of us."


Possibly
 

J regia

Well-known member
"This is what Americans who value free speech are up against. This is what Americans who want to resist leftist answers to the issues of trade, energy and the environment, immigration, foreign policy, deregulation, education and free speech are up against. The events of January 6 gave these companies, along with their other corporate and political partners on the Left, an excuse to clamp down harder and faster on free speech and on the people who still oppose their plans.


The only possible glimmer of hope in all this is the possibility they have not done “too little, too late,” but too much, too soon. They’ve shown their hand. Perhaps more people will walk away. Perhaps more people will take the red pill. Perhaps more people will realize that Trump wasn’t their enemy; that he was fighting for them; that he was fighting for all of us."


Possibly
So who's stopped Trump from standing on a soap box and having free speech to rant about his PGA ban, or starting up his own newspaper or TV station?
But would you give free speech to Hitler or other fascists to encourage treason and violent acts of terrorism, including murdering police?
 
Some of the real baddies think they are the good guys. Some of the baddies are calling some of the good guys fascist when they act more like fascists. Antifa appears to be the baddies. Many in the organization of BLM are the baddies. Many of the democrats, progressives and some of the republicans are the baddies.

When some use the agruement that some republicans are saying things against certain things that democrats are too, that may be because on that particular thing, they are both the baddies.

LOL BVS
 

Thistle

Well-known member
So who's stopped Trump from standing on a soap box and having free speech to rant about his PGA ban, or starting up his own newspaper or TV station?
I missed that. I'll have to check that out. It will be interesting to see about getting through the FCC and financing, etc.. But even in your comment here you seem to be acknowledging a PGA ban vindicating the point.
But would you give free speech to Hitler
Here is a question, would you compare a Trump supporter to a Nazi, and the answer is . . . well yes. Obviously, you don't want America to come together under Joe Biden.
or other fascists to encourage treason and violent acts of terrorism, including murdering police?
And police [you say] are fascists . . . wow!
 

Thistle

Well-known member
Some of the real baddies think they are the good guys. Some of the baddies are calling some of the good guys fascist when they act more like fascists. Antifa appears to be the baddies. Many in the organization of BLM are the baddies. Many of the democrats, progressives and some of the republicans are the baddies.

When some use the agruement that some republicans are saying things against certain things that democrats are too, that may be because on that particular thing, they are both the baddies.

LOL BVS
You know, as social media seems to be rushing to impale itself on it's own petard, perhaps that is just a blessing in disguise. Twitter has done more to radicalize more American on both sides of the spectrum than Hitler, Stalin or Mao ever could have. Ironically, I think the guy who has been most radicalized is Jack Dorsey.
 

vibise

Active member
Some of the real baddies think they are the good guys. Some of the baddies are calling some of the good guys fascist when they act more like fascists. Antifa appears to be the baddies. Many in the organization of BLM are the baddies. Many of the democrats, progressives and some of the republicans are the baddies.

When some use the agruement that some republicans are saying things against certain things that democrats are too, that may be because on that particular thing, they are both the baddies.

LOL BVS
If you are going to accuse groups of bad behavior, perhaps you should be more specific.

Antifa seems to be nowhere in sight these days.
BLM was certainly not invading the Capitol last Wednesday.

What is this bad behavior you think democrats and progressives and some republicans are doing?
 

Truth7t7

Member
"This is what Americans who value free speech are up against. This is what Americans who want to resist leftist answers to the issues of trade, energy and the environment, immigration, foreign policy, deregulation, education and free speech are up against. The events of January 6 gave these companies, along with their other corporate and political partners on the Left, an excuse to clamp down harder and faster on free speech and on the people who still oppose their plans.


The only possible glimmer of hope in all this is the possibility they have not done “too little, too late,” but too much, too soon. They’ve shown their hand. Perhaps more people will walk away. Perhaps more people will take the red pill. Perhaps more people will realize that Trump wasn’t their enemy; that he was fighting for them; that he was fighting for all of us."


Possibly
I'm just checking things out, not putting my stamp of approval on any of it, it's a major claim on "Patriot Websites" that President Trump signed the "Insurrection Act" last night, and the military is rolling behind the scenes?

Claims are circulating that a Special Ops force, seized a truckload of congressional laptops during the Capitol incident, and supposed arrest will be made shortly of high profile persons on various crimes, treason, coup, etc?

Claims of an Italian high ranking military officer, putting forth a sworn "Affidavit" in a Naples Court for protection of himself and family, that he and others took part in the Nov 3rd cyber attack on the US election, changing votes from Trump to Biden on Dominion servers in Germany?

Claims stating Special Ops in Vatican City and Pakistan last night, "Black Outs" for the operation US/Italalian forces, I checked, there were blackouts in both places?

I must admit, interesting developments in the past 2 months?

(FACTS)

Nov 9 Defense Secretary Mark Esper removed, outspoken against the insurrection act?

Dec 14 Pentagon advisory council created with Trump Loyalist, Newt Gingrich being one?

Jan 8 Secretary Pompeo announces the creation of the new (Cyber Security Bureau)?

Jan 10 Fema Director announced to be taking DHS Chad Wolfs duties?

Today Cuba declared as international terriost nation, a strategic point for bad actors against the US?

Today Taiwan/US relations normalized, a strategic point for the US against China?

Today on CSpan, House announces Debbie Dingle will be assuming Nancy Pelosi's chair, with Pelosi having her laptop missing after the Capitol event?

Missing Laptops Raise Cyber Risks From U.S. Capitol Mayhem​

Alyza Sebenius
Fri, January 8, 2021, 11:26 AM PST·3 min read
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote?p=TWTR
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote?p=AONE-UN
(Bloomberg) -- Federal authorities are assessing the cybersecurity risks created by rioters roaming freely through congressional offices during Wednesday’s rampage at the U.S. Capitol, including missing laptops and computers that were left unsecured.

What Is The Insurrection Act? Trump May Have Invoked Law During Capitol Riots

By Danielle Ong
01/11/21 AT 12:00 AM

BREAKING: Trump Has Signed The Insurrection Act, Military Operations Underway

January 10, 2021 Biselliano
 
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Truth7t7

Member
"This is what Americans who value free speech are up against. This is what Americans who want to resist leftist answers to the issues of trade, energy and the environment, immigration, foreign policy, deregulation, education and free speech are up against. The events of January 6 gave these companies, along with their other corporate and political partners on the Left, an excuse to clamp down harder and faster on free speech and on the people who still oppose their plans.


The only possible glimmer of hope in all this is the possibility they have not done “too little, too late,” but too much, too soon. They’ve shown their hand. Perhaps more people will walk away. Perhaps more people will take the red pill. Perhaps more people will realize that Trump wasn’t their enemy; that he was fighting for them; that he was fighting for all of us."


Possibly
I'm just checking things out, not putting my stamp of approval on any of it, it's a major claim on "Patriot Websites" that President Trump signed the "Insurrection Act" last night, and the military is rolling behind the scenes?

Claims are circulating that a Special Ops force, seized a truckload of congressional laptops during the Capitol incident, and supposed arrest will be made shortly of high profile persons on various crimes, treason, coup, etc?

Claims of an Italian high ranking military officer, putting forth a sworn "Affidavit" in a Naples Court for protection of himself and family, that he and others took part in the Nov 3rd cyber attack on the US election, changing votes from Trump to Biden on Dominion servers in Germany?

Claims stating Special Ops in Vatican City and Pakistan last night, "Black Outs" for the operation US/Italalian forces, I checked, there were blackouts in both places?

I must admit, interesting developments in the past 2 months?

Nov 9 Defense Secretary Mark Esper removed, outspoken against the insurrection act?

Dec 14 Pentagon advisory council created with Trump Loyalist, Newt Gingrich being one?

Jan 6 Many missing congressional laptops after Capitol event?

Jan 8 Secretary Pompeo announces the creation of the new (Cyber Security Bureau)?

Jan 10 Fema Director announced to be taking DHS Chad Wolfs duties?

Today Cuba declared as international terriost nation, a strategic point for bad actors against the US?

Today Taiwan/US relations normalized, a strategic point against China?

Today on CSpan, House announces Debbie Dingle will be assuming Nancy Pelosi's chair, with Pelosi having her laptop missing after the Capitol event?

Bloomberg

Missing Laptops Raise Cyber Risks From U.S. Capitol Mayhem​

Alyza Sebenius
Fri, January 8, 2021, 11:26 AM PST

(Bloomberg) -- Federal authorities are assessing the cybersecurity risks created by rioters roaming freely through congressional offices during Wednesday’s rampage at the U.S. Capitol, including missing laptops and computers that were left unsecured.

What Is The Insurrection Act? Trump May Have Invoked Law During Capitol Riots

By Danielle Ong
01/11/21 AT 12:00 AM

BREAKING: Trump Has Signed The Insurrection Act, Military Operations Underway​

January 10, 2021 Biselliano
 

Ignatius

Member
So who's stopped Trump from standing on a soap box and having free speech to rant about his PGA ban, or starting up his own newspaper or TV station?
But would you give free speech to Hitler or other fascists to encourage treason and violent acts of terrorism, including murdering police?
Yes free speech includes things that "offend" you delicate little snowflakes
 
If you are going to accuse groups of bad behavior, perhaps you should be more specific.

Antifa seems to be nowhere in sight these days.
BLM was certainly not invading the Capitol last Wednesday.

What is this bad behavior you think democrats and progressives and some republicans are doing?
Trying to shape the U.S. into what they want it to be to benefit the elite class verses the people and using the bait of things like virtue and equity to do it.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
I'm just checking things out, not putting my stamp of approval on any of it, it's a major claim on "Patriot Websites" that President Trump signed the "Insurrection Act" last night, and the military is rolling behind the scenes?

Claims are circulating that a Special Ops force, seized a truckload of congressional laptops during the Capitol incident, and supposed arrest will be made shortly of high profile persons on various crimes, treason, coup, etc?

Claims of an Italian high ranking military officer, putting forth a sworn "Affidavit" in a Naples Court for protection of himself and family, that he and others took part in the Nov 3rd cyber attack on the US election, changing votes from Trump to Biden on Dominion servers in Germany?

Claims stating Special Ops in Vatican City and Pakistan last night, "Black Outs" for the operation US/Italalian forces, I checked, there were blackouts in both places?

I must admit, interesting developments in the past 2 months?

Nov 9 Defense Secretary Mark Esper removed, outspoken against the insurrection act?

Dec 14 Pentagon advisory council created with Trump Loyalist, Newt Gingrich being one?

Jan 6 Many missing congressional laptops after Capitol event?

Jan 8 Secretary Pompeo announces the creation of the new (Cyber Security Bureau)?

Jan 10 Fema Director announced to be taking DHS Chad Wolfs duties?

Today Cuba declared as international terriost nation, a strategic point for bad actors against the US?

Today Taiwan/US relations normalized, a strategic point against China?

Today on CSpan, House announces Debbie Dingle will be assuming Nancy Pelosi's chair, with Pelosi having her laptop missing after the Capitol event?

Bloomberg

Missing Laptops Raise Cyber Risks From U.S. Capitol Mayhem​

Alyza Sebenius
Fri, January 8, 2021, 11:26 AM PST

(Bloomberg) -- Federal authorities are assessing the cybersecurity risks created by rioters roaming freely through congressional offices during Wednesday’s rampage at the U.S. Capitol, including missing laptops and computers that were left unsecured.

What Is The Insurrection Act? Trump May Have Invoked Law During Capitol Riots

By Danielle Ong
01/11/21 AT 12:00 AM

BREAKING: Trump Has Signed The Insurrection Act, Military Operations Underway​

January 10, 2021 Biselliano
All paranoid conspiracy theory nonsense.
 

Ignatius

Member
And freedom includes private individuals and corporations choosing to give would-betyrants a venue - much as you conservatives hate it.
I don't haie it I have said all along facebook and the others should be free to ban whoever they want. I have no problem with that. What bothers me is they pretend to be tolerant. They have free speech. So do you. It's important we see them and you as they fascists you really are. I wish you peoplen had the guts to admit it but youre all gutless. Keep responding to me. I own you.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
I don't haie it
Of course you hate it. Freedom has always been the #1 enemy of the right.
I have said all along facebook and the others should be free to ban whoever they want. I have no problem with that. What bothers me is they pretend to be tolerant. They have free speech. So do you. It's important we see them and you as they fascists you really are.
Too funny. Facebook and others should be free to ban whoever they want...but as soon as they do so, they're fascists.
I wish you peoplen had the guts to admit it but youre all gutless. Keep responding to me. I own you.
I'm not interested in your childish insults. I'll just point out where you make nonsensical claims, like above.
 

Truth7t7

Member
I don't haie it I have said all along facebook and the others should be free to ban whoever they want. I have no problem with that. What bothers me is they pretend to be tolerant. They have free speech. So do you. It's important we see them and you as they fascists you really are. I wish you peoplen had the guts to admit it but youre all gutless. Keep responding to me. I own you.
I never had a Facebook, Twitter, etc account, yahoo mail, Amazon, that's it

My Amazon account was closed a few hours after their banning of "Parler"

I dont believe Biden will be at any Jan 20th inaguration

Too many things taking place since the election, to believe Trump is leaving office, my opinion
 
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Buzzard

Active member
So who's stopped Trump from standing on a soap box and having free speech to rant about his PGA ban, or starting up his own newspaper or TV station?
But would you give free speech to Hitler or other fascists to encourage treason and violent acts of terrorism, including murdering police?
Hitler was
"A Socialist Progressive Democrat"

something posters should keep in mind,
 

Truth7t7

Member
I don't haie it I have said all along facebook and the others should be free to ban whoever they want. I have no problem with that. What bothers me is they pretend to be tolerant. They have free speech. So do you. It's important we see them and you as they fascists you really are. I wish you peoplen had the guts to admit it but youre all gutless. Keep responding to me. I own you.
The Presedential Executive Order 13959 In Effect Today, Jan 11 2021, Be Informed

Trump, Insurrection Act YouTube Clip 24:16

Tomorrow the Commander And Chief Is Scheduled On The Air 12:00pm

Federal Register.Gov:
Addressing the Threat From Securities Investments That Finance Communist Chinese Military Companies
A Presidential Document by the Executive Office of the President on 11/17/2020


Wikipedia: Executive Order 13959 is a U.S. Presidential Executive Order signed on November 12, 2020 by President Donald Trump. Its stated goal is "Addressing the Threat From Securities Investments That Finance Communist Chinese Military Companies".
Executive Order 13959
Executive Order on Addressing the Threat from Securities Investments that Finance Communist Chinese Military Companies

Type Executive orderExecutive Order number 13959Signed by Donald Trump on November 12, 2020Federal Register details Federal Register document number 2020-25459Publication date November 17, 2020Document citation 85 FR 73185

Prohibiting investment in "Communist Chinese military companies"

The executive order prohibits all U.S. investors (institutional and retail investors alike) from purchasing or investing in securities of companies identified by the U.S. government as "Communist Chinese military companies."[1][2] A "Communist Chinese military company" is any company that the U.S. Department of Defense has identified pursuant to Section 1237 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1999. The prohibition came into effect on January 11, 2021.[3] On December 28, 2020, guidance on the executive order was published clarifying that the order included subsidiaries of the relevant companies.[4][5]

List of affected companies

Initially, 31 companies were identified, including two companies whose shares are traded on U.S. exchanges. These include companies in aerospace, shipbuilding, construction, technology and communication industries.
On December 3, 2020, the Department of Defense designated four additional companies as owned or controlled by the Chinese military, taking the total number of affected companies to 35.[6]
 

Thistle

Well-known member
I'm just checking things out, not putting my stamp of approval on any of it, it's a major claim on "Patriot Websites" that President Trump signed the "Insurrection Act" last night, and the military is rolling behind the scenes?

Claims are circulating that a Special Ops force, seized a truckload of congressional laptops during the Capitol incident, and supposed arrest will be made shortly of high profile persons on various crimes, treason, coup, etc?

Claims of an Italian high ranking military officer, putting forth a sworn "Affidavit" in a Naples Court for protection of himself and family, that he and others took part in the Nov 3rd cyber attack on the US election, changing votes from Trump to Biden on Dominion servers in Germany?

Claims stating Special Ops in Vatican City and Pakistan last night, "Black Outs" for the operation US/Italalian forces, I checked, there were blackouts in both places?

I must admit, interesting developments in the past 2 months?
I don't subscribe to the Trump has been playing 32 dimensional chess theory. If he had, the final piece would have fallen into the puzzle by now.
(FACTS)

Nov 9 Defense Secretary Mark Esper removed, outspoken against the insurrection act?

Dec 14 Pentagon advisory council created with Trump Loyalist, Newt Gingrich being one?

Jan 8 Secretary Pompeo announces the creation of the new (Cyber Security Bureau)?

Jan 10 Fema Director announced to be taking DHS Chad Wolfs duties?

Today Cuba declared as international terriost nation, a strategic point for bad actors against the US?

Today Taiwan/US relations normalized, a strategic point for the US against China?

Today on CSpan, House announces Debbie Dingle will be assuming Nancy Pelosi's chair, with Pelosi having her laptop missing after the Capitol event?
I missed that Pelosi item. Thanks for calling it to attention.

Missing Laptops Raise Cyber Risks From U.S. Capitol Mayhem​

Alyza Sebenius
Fri, January 8, 2021, 11:26 AM PST·3 min read
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote?p=TWTR
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote?p=AONE-UN
(Bloomberg) -- Federal authorities are assessing the cybersecurity risks created by rioters roaming freely through congressional offices during Wednesday’s rampage at the U.S. Capitol, including missing laptops and computers that were left unsecured.

What Is The Insurrection Act? Trump May Have Invoked Law During Capitol Riots

By Danielle Ong
01/11/21 AT 12:00 AM

BREAKING: Trump Has Signed The Insurrection Act, Military Operations Underway

January 10, 2021 Biselliano
As I read the IBT item he didn't invoke The Insurrection Act.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
I never had a Facebook, Twitter, etc account, yahoo mail, Amazon, that's it

My Amazon account was closed a few hours after their banning of "Parler"

I dont believe Biden will be at any Jan 20th inaguration

Too many things taking place since the election, to believe Trump is leaving office, my opinion
are you serious? You honestly think that Trump will remain in power after January 20?
 
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