Yahchristian
Well-known member
I agree !!!
But just to clarify our views…
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
John 6:69… And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of
HO ZAO THEOS.
I say YES.
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
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I agree !!!
But just to clarify our views…
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
John 6:69… And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of
HO ZAO THEOS.
I say YES.
Yahchristian
Well-known member
It appears your Greek Bible differs with the Textus Receptus on John 6:69.
But how about this verse…
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
Matthew 16:16… And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of HO ZAO THEOS.
I say YES.
CrowCross
Super Member
I kinda see no point in replying....unless you have one to make.
Yahchristian
Well-known member
It is a simple question…
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
Matthew 16:16… And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of HO ZAO THEOS.
I say YES.
I am asking you to post your answer to the simple question.
CrowCross
Super Member
Christ Jesus is the Holy one. Why are you arguing against that?
Yahchristian
Well-known member
I DO believe Christ Jesus is “the Holy One of God”.
Luke 4:34… Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thouJesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I knowthee who thou art; the Holy One of God.
But Matthew 16:16 specifically mentions “the living God”.
Why are you unable to answer the question…
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
Matthew 16:16… And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of HO ZAO THEOS.
I say YES.
Towerwatchman
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“Son of” can be offspring of or “of the order of” 1Kg 20:35, 2 Kg 2:3,5. “Son of God” = “Of the order of God.” Orientals used the phrase “Son of” to indicate likeness, sameness of nature, or equality of being.
- 1 Kg 20:35 Now a certain man of the sons of the prophets said to his neighbor by the word of the LORD, “Strike me, please.” And the man refused to strike him.
- 2 Kg 2:3 Now the sons of the prophets who were at Bethel came out to Elisha, and said to him, “Do you know that the LORD will take away your master 1from over you today?”
- 2 Kg 2:5 Now the sons of the prophets who were at Jericho came to Elisha and said to him, “Do you know that the LORD will take away your master from over you today?”
- Jn 5:25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.
- John 9:35-37 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when He had found him, He said to him, “Do you believe in the Son of 7God?” He answered and said, “Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?” And Jesus said to him, “You have both seen Him and it is He who is talking with you.”
- John 10:36-37 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? 37 If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me.
- Jn 11:4 When Jesus heard that, He said, “This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it.”
- Jn 20:30-31 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, hand that believing you may have life in His name.
- Jn 10:33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
Yahchristian
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Ok, but I am not asking about the term “Son of”.
I am asking about the term “the living God” (ho zao theos).
Are you able to answer the question…
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
Matthew 16:16… And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of HO ZAO THEOS.
I say YES.
CrowCross
Super Member
I did answer the question...and many of your questions....but you don't seem to hear the answers...instead you would try and trip people up making Jesus into who He isn't.
johnny guitar
Well-known member
The Living God.
And.........................
Yahchristian
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Towerwatchman
Well-known member
Are you able to make your point. You remind me of a Ferengi always looking for the advantage.
johnny guitar
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ONLY ONE God and He is very much alive.
Yahchristian
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YOU said…
“HO THEOS is equivalent to YHWH.”
My point is to determine if YOU can tell us…
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
Matthew 16:16… And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of HO ZAO THEOS.
I say YES.
Towerwatchman
Well-known member
And this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath. But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.” This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. - John 5:16-18
Yahchristian
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Right, but that passage does not mention the term “ho zao theos” (“the living God”).
Are you able to tell us or not…
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
Matthew 16:16… And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of HO ZAO THEOS.
I say YES.
Towerwatchman
Well-known member
Is there a difference between son of God and son of the living God?
Similar to asking is there a difference between water and wet water.
Yahchristian
Well-known member
I say NO since as I posted - I believe The God is equivalent to The Living God.
But YOU have not told us…
Is HO THEOS equivalent to HO ZAO THEOS?
Matthew 16:16… And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of HO ZAO THEOS.
Towerwatchman
Well-known member
Similar to asking is there a difference between water and wet water.
That is your answer.
Now if you have a point, make it.