Is it okay to murder a baby that has been born if its parents are extremely poor and the baby will have a bad life?

Thistle

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It is never OK to murder anyone, including born babies.

Pregnant women should have the option to terminate unwanted pregnancies.
Perhaps the morality of this question would be easier to understand if it was framed slightly differently. Should pregnant women be free to abort unwanted Democrat voters? Because the women who seem to be gung ho about abortion are all Democrats.
Their reasons are not the business of anyone else.
So it would be OK for a woman to abort a child because scientist developed a test for the gay gene and the mother knew that their child was going to be gay?
Especially RW busybodies
The people on the "right wing" that I know want to live and let live. Abortion violates the second half of the principle.
who also object to social safety net programs
Like the program that pays people so much money not to work that small businesses can't get anybody to come back to work? I think there are sound policy reasons for being against that directive.
that provide pre- and post-natal care for pregnant women and nutrition and other support for children in poor families.
The people who support the pro-life movement spends lots of money on addressing these needs. The primary difference is the money they're spending as their own, not someone else's.
 

GeneZ

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Is it okay to murder a baby that has been born if its parents are extremely poor and the baby will have a bad life?​


Absolutely!

Because, I say so.

And, I am smarter than you are.

Face it. You know I'm right.


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BMS

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, Care for it until it dies. Which will almost certainly be within a few weeks.
You will care for it ? Or were you expecting the mother to? The mother didnt want it remember. Or were you speaking for somone else to have to care for it?
Do all humans die after a failed abortion?


It should be noted that this would be a successful abortion, as the pregnancy has been terminated.
I see. So if one killed the mother that would also be a sucessful abortion because the pregnancy is terminated.
 

BMS

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Read it out loud until you understand it.
An abortion that fails, is called a "botched abortion".
When an abortion is botched, the mother usually dies.
Occasionaly, a botched abortion will happen in a hospital or clinic, with proper medical facilities... and the mother can be saved. Although generally she will need an emergency hysterectomy to avoid bleeding to death.
That said, most botched abortions happen because back alley surgeons, witch doctors, faith healers, and voodoo priests, are the providers of abortion where abortion is illegal.
And they have neither the facilities, nor the training, to perform a safe abortion.
The result is that many women end up dead on the kitchen table of a semi-literate quack who bought their credentials.



There is no baby. Try to get that through your head.
No, read and address the OP topic. The thread is about where the abortion procedure is carried out and the baby survives. At the moment you are debating with yourself about your own ideas.
Are you saying that the human offspring when removed from the womb isnt a baby if it was the result of a failed abortion?
 

GeneZ

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Ezekiel 16:4-6


On the day you were born your cord was not cut, nor were you washed with water to
make you clean, nor were you rubbed with salt or wrapped in cloths. No one looked on
you with pity or had compassion enough to do any of these things for you. Rather, you
were thrown out into the open field, for on the day you were born you were despised.

“‘Then I passed by and saw you kicking about in your blood, and as you lay there in your
blood I said to you, “Live!”


 
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J regia

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Ezekiel 16:4-6

On the day you were born your cord was not cut, nor were you washed with water to
make you clean, nor were you rubbed with salt or wrapped in cloths. No one looked on
you with pity or had compassion enough to do any of these things for you. Rather, you
were thrown out into the open field, for on the day you were born you were despised.

“‘Then I passed by and saw you kicking about in your blood, and as you lay there in your

blood I said to you, “Live!”
Was the mother still alive when she and her new born were thrown out into the open field?
 

GeneZ

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Was the mother still alive when she and her new born were thrown out into the open field?

Why should that matter?

Is it okay to murder a baby that has been born if its parents are extremely poor and the baby will have a bad life?​


The baby was definitely having a bad life.
 

Mr Laurier

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No, read and address the OP topic.
What? Did it change?
No? Still the same topic.
The thread is about where the abortion procedure is carried out and the baby survives.
... which is simply not reality.
At the moment you are debating with yourself about your own ideas.
No. I'm trying to explain the obvious to you.
Are you saying that the human offspring when removed from the womb isnt a baby if it was the result of a failed abortion?
No. If I was saying that, you would find those words in my posts.
Where do you find those words in my posts?
Nowhere? What does that tell you?
 

BMS

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What? Did it change?
No? Still the same topic.

... which is simply not reality.

No. I'm trying to explain the obvious to you.

No. If I was saying that, you would find those words in my posts.
Where do you find those words in my posts?
Nowhere? What does that tell you?
So.it is reality. For example one famous case was Melissa O in the BBC news june 2018.
Melissa was discarded and later found to be alive and so was her mother

so first grasp some reality and then get back to me.
 

GeneZ

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Some atheists derive pleasure in gaslighting Christians. Its a hobby for them.

They take a pleasure in using what we cherish and value while watching our expression like someone stomping on a baby kitten and thinking nothing of it.. All the while they do it so logically (pseudo) and rationally (pseudo).

They are going to the Lake of Fire if they do not stop playing with fire.

That they can not see us knowing them plainly, as they think they are getting the upper hand...

They will deny every word I said sounding so logically and rationally.....

Once we are in our resurrection bodies this will not even be remembered. Nor will they be remembered.

They are playing with fire.
 
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