Is it okay to murder a baby that has been born if its parents are extremely poor and the baby will have a bad life?

[vibise]

"Personhood" is a nonsensical standard the left has tried to apply to the issue. Humans are entitled to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and not personhood liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Fetuses are not capable of the pursuit of happiness.

 

[Yakuda]

In another thread, you mocked us for providing healthcare to poor mothers and their unborn children.

Now, you're mad because you think we don't provide healthcare to them?

Do you know what the Bible says about a double minded person?

She couldn't care less. Leftists just say whatever comes.intontheir heads no matter how irrational.

 

[vibise]

And people in the womb who are killed by pro-choice abortion are likely to live, so what is your point

The vast majority of abortions occur well before viability, and late term abortions are rare and almost always precipitated by medical issues.

 

[PeanutGallery]

correct. A fetus has no level of cognition or independence characteristic of living, breathing people.

I believe there are currently people who have no level of cognition or independence characteristics of living on life support; you suggest they should also be terminated for someone's convenience? That's a poor excuse to end a life of a baby who cannot defend itself.

I think a more appropriate response would be "out of sight, out of mind"

 

[Yakuda]

Fetuses are not capable of the pursuit of happiness.

So? Where does it say they MUST? MUST I pursue happiness to be entitled to the right? What's wrong with you? Just more evidence that leftist will say anything no matter how ridiculous it is.

 

[vibise]

Sometime without knowledge of the persons wishes or family consent. Besides it's just another way of saying abortion.

Do you have evidence of this? Sure some people don't have a medical directive, but I cannot imagine terminating a life without consulting with the family, unless the family has greatly unrealistic expectations of recovery.

 

[Yakuda]

The vast majority of abortions occur well before viability, and late term abortions are rare and almost always precipitated by medical issues.

And mostly for convenience. You have convinced people the baby is just "clump of cells" but you know better. That why's you're culpable.

 

[Yakuda]

Do you have evidence of this? Sure some people don't have a medical directive, but I cannot imagine terminating a life without consulting with the family, unless the family has greatly unrealistic expectations of recovery.

You just answered.your own question. Leftists are butchers

 

[vibise]

Vibise doesn't believe in standing up for mothers, either, as she condemns and disparages the crisis pregnancy movement at every opportunity.

Vibise sees babies as a problem to be solved, not a child to be loved.

Not a nice person, that Vibise.

The crisis pregnancy movement lies to mothers, and is therefore not a movement that stands up for mothers. It is a movement that is virulently anti-abortion, and does not care a whit about the consequences to the mother.

 

[BMS]

They are not regarded as persons under the law

Nor are 'transwomen'. But did you miss the bit where we said we are standing up for their rights because they are denied their rights

with the rights and privileges assigned to actual living, breathing people.

Did you miss the bit where I pointed out people dont get puberty either until they are about 11. What is your point?

I think that some consideration should be given to fetuses after viability,

Did you miss the bit where the human being at foetal stage is just as viable as the cultural maxist or the man who calls himself as 'transwoman' ?
What is your point?

 

[Mike McK]

She couldn't care less. Leftists just say whatever comes.intontheir heads no matter how irrational.

Like I said, she sees babies as problems to be solved, not as children to be loved. She's pretty cold hearted.

 

[Bonnie]

Is it okay to murder a baby that has been born if its parents are extremely poor and the baby will have a bad life?

If an abortion fails, is it okay to murder the baby after it is born?

Absolutely not!!!

 

[BMS]

The crisis pregnancy movement lies to mothers, and is therefore not a movement that stands up for mothers. It is a movement that is virulently anti-abortion, and does not care a whit about the consequences to the mother.

No the pro-choice movement lies because the human being goes through a foetal stage without being killed by a woke pro-choicer

 

[vibise]

And mostly for convenience. You have convinced people the baby is just "clump of cells" but you know better. That why's you're culpable.

The RW anti-woman anti-abortionists dismiss any and all reasons for abortion as "convenience", a nasty way of downplaying what can be the life-altering consequences of pregnancy.

 

[Yakuda]

Like I said, she sees babies as problems to be solved, not as children to be loved. She's pretty cold hearted.

Sad but true

 

[vibise]

You just answered.your own question. Leftists are butchers

You think all people on life support should be maintained in that state indefinitely? I cannot believe anyone would advocate such an inhumane practice.

 

[Mike McK]

The vast majority of abortions occur well before viability

and...? If you're now claiming viability is your standard, then what happens as medical technology advances and viability becomes earlier and earlier?

 

[Yakuda]

The RW anti-woman anti-abortionists dismiss any and all reasons for abortion as "convenience", a nasty way of downplaying what can be the life-altering consequences of pregnancy.

And LW murderers have convinced themselves that they have good reasons to kill people. So did Charles Manson.

 

[BMS]

The crisis pregnancy movement lies to mothers, and is therefore not a movement that stands up for mothers. It is a movement that is virulently anti-abortion, and does not care a whit about the consequences to the mother.

prove to us a pro-choicer has cognitive reasoning?

 

[vibise]

I rest my case. You're a hypocrite.

It is not hypocritical in the least to point out that fake crisis pregnancy centers lie to women all the time, and do not act in the interests of those women. You cannot defend the lies these centers tell, so I rest my case.