Is it okay to murder a baby that has been born if its parents are extremely poor and the baby will have a bad life?

Mike McK

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Mumbo jumbo. But vibise claims to be a scientist.
I used to work in Philly, at 5th and Market. There was a bum who hung out by the entrance to the High Speed Line who insisted he was Benjamin Disraeli, of all people.

I believe it's more likely he was Benjamin Disraeli than I do that she's a scientist.
 
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Electric Skeptic

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Also wrong of her. Most states have consider the killing or harm of an unborn child to be a punishable offense.
No, it's not wrong of her. In not a single state are fetuses "regarded as persons under the law with the rights and privileges assigned to actual living, breathing people", and you have not shown they are.
 

Nic

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correct. A fetus has no level of cognition or independence characteristic of living, breathing people.
In utero babies mouth breathe in/out amniotic fluid don't they?
They have heart beats and cellular reproduction. They have their own blood supply. I suspect they have brains ways and respond to nurturing with song or other external stimulus as well.
 
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CrowCross

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Does not change the fact that there are no babies in the womb.

I don't have any "satanic baby in the womb killing" for any body to disagree with.
Oh boy!!!! Yeah, I bet you feel good.....label the baby as something else and now it's ok to kill it. That's sick. Demonic.
 
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vibise

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In utero babies mouth breathe in/out amniotic fluid don't they?
They have heart beats and cellular reproduction. They have their own blood supply. I suspect they have brains ways and respond to nurturing with song or other external stimulus as well.
Fetuses in utero do not breathe.
As developing humans they show activity of various organ systems, but, at early stages those systems are primitive and cannot sustain life.
What you suspect about brain function is generally not true.
 

Nic

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Fetuses in utero do not breathe.
As developing humans they show activity of various organ systems, but, at early stages those systems are primitive and cannot sustain life.
What you suspect about brain function is generally not true.
Ah yes they do. Well fetus don't have gills, so technically they are not breathing for gas exchange, but they due inhale and exhale. I'm not on board with abortion. I think it's murder. I think your simply wrong.
Doctors made a huge discovery, in utero fetal surgery reveals that a fetus is indeed a baby! Who'd of thunk it?
 
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Electric Skeptic

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Oh boy!!!! Yeah, I bet you feel good.....label the baby as something else and now it's ok to kill it. That's sick. Demonic.
I neither feel bad nor good for making a simple statement of fact. That statement has nothing to do with whether or not it's "ok to kill it".

Why is that pro-lifers are so opposed to facts?
 

Electric Skeptic

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Ah yes they do. Well fetus don't have gills, so technically they are not breathing for gas exchange, but they due inhale and exhale. I'm not on board with abortion. I think it's murder. I think your simply wrong.
Doctors made a huge discovery, in utero fetal surgery reveals that a fetus is indeed a baby! Who'd of thunk it?
Sadly you are also wrong - by definition, abortion is not murder in any jurisdiction where it is legal.
 

Nic

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Sadly you are also wrong - by definition, abortion is not murder in any jurisdiction where it is legal.
Yeah by the legality of the land. But that's about it. I don't dispute that killing the unborn has the legal stamp of approval of a sad flourishing tradition.
 

CrowCross

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I neither feel bad nor good for making a simple statement of fact. That statement has nothing to do with whether or not it's "ok to kill it".

Why is that pro-lifers are so opposed to facts?
It's hard to reason with the demonic mind of a person who thinks killing a baby in the womb is OK.
 
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