@TrevorL ,
GINOLJC, to all,
First thanks for the reply, second, we disagree with that assessment, and here's why. while Moses was talking to God in Exodus 6:3 as you posted above, he God said this, "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
by the name of God Almighty,
but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them."
well God cannot lie ... right, Good lets see the lie that men put in Abraham mouth, as is today. Genesis 22:14 "And Abraham called the name of that place J
ehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen." well now, how come Abraham got this name, whom God said Abraham did not know him by, in his mouth? well, see your mistake as well as, Most translations and commentators, as you stated above. even the JW who suppose to be experts on the name jehovah fell for the same lie in Genesis 22:14, for they have jehovah there.
see either God is lying, (God forbid), we know God don't lie, or Abraham is lying, (but he's the friend of God), so he's not lying, so how did this name that Abrham did not know get in his mouth? answer those lying scribes and or the translators, one or the other, or both.
so knowing God don't lie, it's men who lie. so lets examine man lie.
(A). Finding a name.
Now that we know that, "I AM", is an emphatic
verb, which is a name that describe what God is, so where did the Names Jehovah, and, Yahweh come from?. is not Jehovah, as said, in the bible?. So where did the names come from. these name came from, what is know as the tetragrammaton, and men tampered with it by adding vowels to these four letters. the tetragrammaton is a term from the Greek word, τετραγράμματον, meaning, "a word having four letters". It is the Hebrew written word, or four letters, (יהוה), Yodh, He, Waw, He, hence the translation into English, YHWH, or JHVH by some. these four letters, suppose to be the unpronounced name of God. and from these four letters come the man made names Yahweh, Hebrew, and Jehovah, English.
(B). Building a Name, is it true or a false name.
a name is an Identifier, as to
what and, or
who you are. we need to clarify the "Truth" here on God's Holy Name. Now the question is,
what, or
who is God proper/PERSONAL name. is it Jehovah, English or Yahweh, in Hebrew. well it's neither, lets see how they, the translators, derived those names from the tetragrammaton. The word "JEHOVAH" was formed by merging the three vowels (e, o, and a) into the Romanized (Latinized) four letter version JHVH to get, JeHoVaH. and the word "YAHWEH" was formed by merging the vowels (a, and e), into the four letter version to get, YaHWeH. so we have the English man made, and the Hebrew man made form of God's supposed unpronounced name. here is the mistake. they, (the translator, or ie the scribes), added vowels to the four letter consonant, to make up a name to pronounce. one can never add or take away from the WORD of God. they added vowels to give God a personal name, because they knew that YHWH is a
verb, and not a noun. and because the suppose name was lost, which the Jews said was forbidden to pronounce, they made a guess at the name where pointers should be. this was a grave mistake on their part. when you add to the word of God you just put the spiritual noose around your neck. arbitrarily, the translators injected the vowels into the four letter consonant to come up with the names, "YaHWeH", and, "JeHoVaH",
as we know, this man made name Jehovah is in the English bible. but is it the correct NAME?. no, notice, it's the Jewish national name of God, only for the Jewish nation. and no one's else, now, definition time,
H3068 יְהוֹוָה Yhovah (yeh-ho-vaw') n/p.
1. (the) self-Existent or Eternal
2. Jehovah, Jewish national name of God
3. (anglicized) Jehovah.
4. (as a name prefix) Yeho-.
5. (As expressed in Hebraic Koine Greek) ἐγώ εἰμί, I AM (literally: I myself, I am).
[from
H1961]
KJV: Jehovah, the Lord.
my source for this definition, Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments.
did one see, or notice where this root for the Jewish national name of God come from?. it comes from
H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v. which is
“I AM”, which means,
1. to exist
2. to be or become
3. to come into being, i.e. to happen, to occur (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary
also notice where JESUS, or YESHUA come from. it is the Strong's # is (H3442), look this Strong’s number up. it is written Yod-Shin-Vav-Ayin, it is a masculine noun that means, "He is salvation" or "He saves”. for only
God SAVES. H3442 יֵשׁוַּע Yeshuwa` (yay-shoo'-ah) n/l.
1. he will save.
2. Jeshua, the name of ten Israelites, also of a place in Israel.
[for H3091]
KJV: Jeshua.
Root(s):
H3091
in the Greek, it's G2424 Ἰησοῦς Iesous (ee-ay-sous`) n/p.
1.Jesus (i.e. Jehoshua) of Hebrew origin (H3091)
2.KJV: Jesus
Root(s):
H3091
now lets trace the root of this name,
H3091, which gets its origins from
H3068 which originates from
H1961 הָיָה hayah, or “I AM”.
"The Anglicization of God personal name"
What is Anglicization: To make English or similar to English in form, idiom, style, or character. Merriam‑Webster: a transitive verb. 1 to make English in quality or characteristics. 2 : to adapt (a foreign word, name, or phrase) to English usage: as a : to alter to a characteristic English form, sound, or spelling b : to convert (a name) to its English equivalent <anglicize Juan as John>. to put it in layman's terms, the name Jesus, is a transliteration, and not a translation. understand "LORD", or "Lord", or "Father" ect... are Titles, Appellation, and the Epithet of God, which is "WHAT" he is, and not "WHO" he is in Name. now the name, of God KNOWN, as to "WHO" he is.
Exodus 6:3 "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them”. (GOD personal Name is not know, only his titles, LORD, CREATOR...), now his Personal Name is coming, because he is manifesting so that man his creation can see his maker FACE to FACE, and KNOW HIM, by his name.
again, Scripture: Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people
shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that
I am he that doth speak: behold,
it is I. God made it very clear that when he come, his people will know that it is him. Answer Scripture: John 8:24 "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:
for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins”. BINGO, "I AM HIM" and the name that "I AM HIM" used is JESUS, John 5:43 "
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive."
What is the name he come in? answer, "JESUS"/YESHUA.
so we can see that the Lord Jesus, his name, according to John 8:24 is traced back to “I AM”, or H1961, hayah. so Jehovah, AKA Yahweh is false. let the bible tell us who God is in PERSONAL NAME. Matthew 1:23" Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us”. and since God is with us, what is God PERSONAL NAME. answer, Matthew 1:21" And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name
JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins”. can we back this up even in the O.T.?, yes, scripture. Isaiah 35:4 "Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you”. Throughout the bible when one encounter the word “salvation”, in how it is used, then you're seeing the coming, "NAME".
JESUS, or YESHUA, Strong's # is (H3442), as said, it is written Yod-Shin-Vav-Ayin, it is a masculine noun that means, "
He is salvation" or
"He saves”. for only God SAVES. H3442 יֵשׁוַּע Yeshuwa` (yay-shoo'-ah) n/l.
1. he will save.
2. Jeshua, the name of ten Israelites, also of a place in Israel.
[for H3091]
KJV: Jeshua.
Root(s): H3091
now, I will not argue with anyone, and if you choose to use those other MAN MADE name, that your choice.
Have a good day, one might would like to re-read this posting for full edification.
PICJAG, 101G.
there it is