Adoption only brings one into the family. God actually gives believers of his spirit for them to be born again as his sons...perhaps this is not your case. Have you been born again by the HS?
You are not making any sense... we receive the HS just as Jesus did... Jesus received the HS when he was baptized...Believers also receive the HS.
No go read it again...the kings and priests are those who have received the HS they are now sons and joint heirs with Jesus...
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
I agree with all that. But outside of that fact, Jesus ie the Word in Him *is* the divine nature, as is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
I don't teach that the Father the Word and the HS are persons in a trinity...that is your argument. Now you are saying they are persons but not persons...that would apply to the father also...is the father a person but not a person?
The Father is the person. The Word and Holy Spirit are part of who He is.
Do you see how silly your argument is? Are they not co equal in your doctrine...Now you are saying one is a person but the others only seem like persons but are not really persons.
They are co-equal in/are divine nature (not merely partaking).
Persons is a theological convenience term but the interactions are valid.
Where do you get those things...? when you decide to post those comments you should present the scripture that say the same thing…
Scriptures can't be presented until you understand the position.
Did you just make that up or is that written somewhere in the scripture?However I do agree with the first three words
So then the arms of Adam... not Adam is that correct...
Therefore not God but the Word of God and the Spirit of God is that correct?
The Word and Holy Spirit being part of who God is makes those distinctions God.
That makes no sense…
Analogies are not exact likenesses. That makes sense.
Therefor the Word of God became flesh, God did not become flesh... Remember you are saying only the father is a person...the Word and the HS seem to be persons but they are not persons. Therefore a non-person became flesh.Is that your position?
The nonperson the Word rather than a created awareness, serves as the awareness for the human senses, thus awakening human awareness/mentality in the Word, thus He acquired personhood, the kin-related Son of God.
Believers are Joint heirs with Jesus.. because they share the same spirit from the same father...
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
don't see how this helps your argument…
Jesus acquiring a human mentality explains how He called the Father is the only true God. But it doesn't mean that the Word that holds that mentality is not God.
You keep making up thing that are not in the scripture sir…
I never made that argument...I have posted the scripture to you that says believers are joint heirs with Jesus...believers have the same spirit as Jesus. Do you believe this , yes or no?
Yes.. But I am saying outside of that fact, the Word in Jesus' flesh *is* the divine nature, as is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
The divine nature is the HS that was promised...I posted the scripture saying so.
Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
believers receive the same HS.
Yes the divine nature *is*
the Holy Spirit as you say. But believers are partakers, not "are" the Holy Spirit.
You keep making unsupported nonsensical statements. Where is that written in the scripture?
We must understand each other's views and terms before we can deal with scriptures.