johnny guitar
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Saying I proves God is ONE living Being.
Father and Son SEND The Holy Spirit. They do NOT have A Spirit.
Is Jesus God? Understanding the "Trinity"
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Father and Son SEND The Holy Spirit. They do NOT have A Spirit.
JNelson
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Since when do singular PERSONAL pronouns refer to being and not person?
John 19:30
johnny guitar
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Singular personal pronouns USUALLY refer to ONE Being.
Biblican
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His Spirit is distinct from His person, which is the mind that is doing the sending.
Biblican
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I am not denying the Trinity, which is obviously seen in Isaiah 42:1. I am correcting errors in the wording of the definition of the Trinity that are not supported by the scriptures.
Biblican
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The scriptures show us that God has a soul which is the person of anyone. - Isaiah 42:1, Jeremiah 6:8,32:41,Leviticus 26:11, Psalm 11:5. His soul is His being and His Spirit is His substance. The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit as Jesus' said Matthew 10:20. God has designed the spirit to operate with the soul, therefore the person of the Holy Spirit is the person with which it is unified and that is the person of the Father and the Son. See John 14.
Biblican
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The being of anyone is the person/soul they are the same thing.
Biblican
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The Father is one Spirit (John 4:24), the Holy Spirit is His Spirit (Matthew 10:20) and Jesus' Spirit (Ro. 8:9).
johnny guitar
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The Holy Spirit is distinct from Father and Son and is sent by BOTH.
Biblican
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Yes, the Holy Spirit is distinct from the Father and the Son's persons/souls. The Spirit unifies the persons of the Father and Son. Read Isaiah 42:1.
johnny guitar
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Distinct from Father and Son period.
And like them He is God Himself.
JNelson
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JNelson
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And since God is one being that means he is one person.
Biblican
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Yes, the Holy Spirit is distinct from the persons of the Father and the Son. The Spirit is God because the Spirit is God's Spirit as Jesus said.
Biblican
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Yes. He is unified with the person of His Son by the Holy Spirit which we see in Isaiah 42:1.
JNelson
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What do you mean by unified? The son is still a distinct person from Yahweh who is his God.
Biblican
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Yes, Jesus is a distinct person from Yahweh. His soul/person is unified with God through the Holy Spirit Isaiah 42:1. Jesus' Spirit is God's Holy Spirit, Jesus' person/soul is begotten and distinct from His Spirit Romans 8:9. As humans, our souls are distinct from our spirits. The difference between us and Jesus is His Sprit is God's Holy Spirit. I think I explained this in my thread.
JNelson
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If Jesus doesn’t have a human spirit like us then he was not a true human person like us
johnny guitar
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Distinct Person from The Father, NOT Yahweh.
You seem to have an obsession with a name NOT found in the NT.
Biblican
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Johnny, the Father is Yahweh which is the derivative of the name God said in the burning bush to Moses, which is I AM.