Is Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus?

What a joke? You cut the verse in half again. Try reading it as a whole without the added emphasis that skews your interpretation. I'm still wondering why, outside your silly editing of Scripture to make it sound better, you think you're correct?

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No, I highlighted the part of the verse that you don't agree with, the evidence being the phony modern version you used to try to rework it.

That is exactly why you pitted that version against the KJV.

You and the modern version think the KJV translators got it wrong.

You disqualified yourself with the modern version.
 
His human spirit is omnipresent? How is he still human if his humanity transformed into something not human-like? How can God give a creature an eternal past?
God made Jesus a quickening spirit after raising Jesus from the dead per 1 Cor 15.

Jesus, the quickening spirit , is now omnipresent.

Jesus is...a quickening spirit, bodily.

A spirit has a body(1 Cor 15)...40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

Jesus only had an eternal past per the mind/will of God, which is reality in the eternal world.

God made sure His human son was there to make everything by, for and through.

God knew His human son before time began.

Is this possible to God or not?
 
The oneness doctrine that Apostolics teach is a modification of the trinity doctrine.

The 1st century oneness that I teach is the true oneness doctrine of the Apostles(God inside His human son, creating unification as one).

Both oneness and trinitarians detest the idea that God resides fully inside His son.

Here is an example of God inside His human son, lighting the new heaven and earth THROUGH His human son....


23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

The man Christ Jesus(quickening spirit that Paul saw in Acts 9), is the omnipresent "bulb" and God is the light source.
 
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What a joke? You cut the verse in half again. Try reading it as a whole without the added emphasis that skews your interpretation. I'm still wondering why, outside your silly editing of Scripture to make it sound better, you think you're correct?
No, I highlighted the part of the verse that you don't agree with, the evidence being the phony modern version you used to try to rework it.

Really? Because if you read what I wrote, you should know I didn't disagree with any part of the verse. I simply looked as the verse as a whole, not fixating like you do on what you BOLD as to ignore the rest, and saw what the verse as a whole is communicating. Will you answer my question now? I'm still wondering why, outside your silly editing of Scripture to make it sound better, you think you're correct?

That is exactly why you pitted that version against the KJV.

What version? I pitted nothing against the KJV. I simply exegeted the KJV and noted that my exegesis corresponded with other Translations of the same text. Until you interact with my exegesis of the KJV, your vacuous assertion and bolding of the text only reenforces the strength of my exegesis.

God Bless
 
"made a life
God made Jesus a quickening spirit after raising Jesus from the dead per 1 Cor 15.

Jesus, the quickening spirit , is now omnipresent.

Jesus is...a quickening spirit, bodily.

A spirit has a body(1 Cor 15)...40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

Jesus only had an eternal past per the mind/will of God, which is reality in the eternal world.

God made sure His human son was there to make everything by, for and through.

God knew His human son before time began.

Is this possible to God or not?

After the bodily ascension of the resurrected Jesus (ACTS 1), he poured out his life-giving Holy Spirit (ACTS 2) and is still baptizing whosoever will with the Holy Spirit. This same Spirit of Christ will raise believers from the dead (Romans 8).

The Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit and is immutable before, during and after the resurrection of the Son of God. With the incarnation (LUKE 1:35), the Son came into existence and was a manifestation in the flesh of the immutable and invisible Spirit of God. It is in this sense that the Son came into existence and the relationship between the eternal Spirit of God and the man Christ Jesus began. The work of pouring out the Spirit of God is a direct result of the redemption work God did through his incarnation and continues to this day. Those that call on the one who died for their sins - Jesus - receive the baptism of the life-giving Holy Spirit.

He 'became' a life-giving spirit by way of the incarnation and his continuing work of regeneration as the Holy Spirit or Spirit of Christ. It is not that the risen Christ was transformed into an omnipresent Spirit, it is that at the incarnation Son of God began to exist as a manifestation of the Holy Spirit and after the ascension, Christ primarily works in the world through his Spirit.

The first Adam became a living soul when he was created. Adam wasn't created and walking around and then became a living soul. Neither was Christ, the second Adam, conceived and walked around and grew up, and became a life-giving spirit way later on.
 
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Really? Because if you read what I wrote, you should know I didn't disagree with any part of the verse. I simply looked as the verse as a whole, not fixating like you do on what you BOLD as to ignore the rest, and saw what the verse as a whole is communicating. Will you answer my question now? I'm still wondering why, outside your silly editing of Scripture to make it sound better, you think you're correct
What version? I pitted nothing against the KJV. I simply exegeted the KJV and noted that my exegesis corresponded with other Translations of the same text. Until you interact with my exegesis of the KJV, your vacuous assertion and bolding of the text only reenforces the strength of my exegesis.

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This is evidence you scurried away from the KJV to try to prove your point.
 
"made a life


After the bodily ascension of the resurrected Jesus (ACTS 1), he poured out his life-giving Holy Spirit (ACTS 2) and is still baptizing whosoever will with the Holy Spirit. This same Spirit of Christ will raise believers from the dead (Romans 8).

The Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit and is immutable before, during and after the resurrection of the Son of God. With the incarnation (LUKE 1:35), the Son came into existence and was a manifestation in the flesh of the immutable and invisible Spirit of God. It is in this sense that the Son came into existence and the relationship between the eternal Spirit of God and the man Christ Jesus began. The work of pouring out the Spirit of God is a direct result of the redemption work God did through his incarnation and continues to this day. Those that call on the one who died for their sins - Jesus - receive the baptism of the life-giving Holy Spirit.

He 'became' a life-giving spirit by way of the incarnation and his continuing work of regeneration as the Holy Spirit or Spirit of Christ. It is not that the risen Christ was transformed into an omnipresent Spirit, it is that at the incarnation Son of God began to exist as a manifestation of the Holy Spirit and after the ascension, Christ primarily works in the world through his Spirit.

The first Adam became a living soul when he was created. Adam wasn't created and walking around and then became a living soul. Neither was Christ, the second Adam, conceived and walked around and grew up, and became a life-giving spirit way later on.
Simple question, was the last Adam made a quickening spirit or did God make Himself a quickening spirit?


45 ... the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
 
Really? Because if you read what I wrote, you should know I didn't disagree with any part of the verse. I simply looked as the verse as a whole, not fixating like you do on what you BOLD as to ignore the rest, and saw what the verse as a whole is communicating. Will you answer my question now? I'm still wondering why, outside your silly editing of Scripture to make it sound better, you think you're correct
What version? I pitted nothing against the KJV. I simply exegeted the KJV and noted that my exegesis corresponded with other Translations of the same text. Until you interact with my exegesis of the KJV, your vacuous assertion and bolding of the text only reenforces the strength of my exegesis.
This is evidence you scurried away from the KJV to try to prove your point.

Every translation out there says your interpretation of Revelation 13:8 is wrong including the KJV. Perhaps, you should consider what the KJV is saying.

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Simple question, was the last Adam made a quickening spirit or did God make Himself a quickening spirit?


45 ... the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

You are mistaken in thinking that this happened after the resurrection and that Christ became an omnipresent human spirit co-existing with omnipresence of God.

When the eternal and immutable Spirit of God became incarnate, the Son, because of the incarnation became a quickening Spirit because of he nature of the incarnation and the inseparable fusion of God and man. You are misunderstanding the process. God is immutable and unchanging. God became a genuine man and because of this, the eternal Spirit became associated with the incarnation. A man didn't and can't become God. God became man. This happened at the incarnation. There was never a time when the Son wasn't God manifested in the flesh.

As to the present and future, the life-giving Spirit of Christ is experienced in our lives due to his incarnation and work of redemption that leads to our regeneration and resurrection.

Once I was lost and without God because of the curse from Adam and my own sins, but now Christ has become that life-giving Spirit to me.
 
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Every translation out there says your interpretation of Revelation 13:8 is wrong including the KJV. Perhaps, you should consider what the KJV is saying.

God Bless
Is this an interpretation or an observation?...

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 
You are mistaken in thinking that this happened after the resurrection and that Christ became an omnipresent human spirit co-existing with omnipresence of God.

When the eternal and immutable Spirit of God became incarnate, the Son, because of the incarnation became a quickening Spirit because of he nature of the incarnation and the inseparable fusion of God and man. You are misunderstanding the process. God is immutable and unchanging. God became a genuine man and because of this, the eternal Spirit became associated with the incarnation. A man didn't and can't become God. God became man. This happened at the incarnation. There was never a time when the Son wasn't God manifested in the flesh.

As to the present and future, the life-giving Spirit of Christ is experienced in our lives due to his incarnation and work of redemption that leads to our regeneration and resurrection.

Once I was lost and without God because of the curse from Adam and my own sins, but now Christ has become that life-giving Spirit to me.
Is 1 Cor 15 about the resurrection of Christ?...

35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:...

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
 
Every translation out there says your interpretation of Revelation 13:8 is wrong including the KJV. Perhaps, you should consider what the KJV is saying.
Is this an interpretation or an observation?...
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Still modifying the KJV to support your narrative, I see. I'm sure God loves being spit in the face by Truther modifying his words so they are read differently.

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Still modifying the KJV to support your narrative, I see. I'm sure God loves being spit in the face by Truther modifying his words so they are read differently.

God Bless
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world

Highlighting is not modifying.
 
Still modifying the KJV to support your narrative, I see. I'm sure God loves being spit in the face by Truther modifying his words so they are read differently.
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world

Highlighting is not modifying.

You can't help modifying the KJV to support your narrative. I'm sure God loves being spit in the face by Truther modifying his words so they are read differently.

God Bless
 
You can't help modifying the KJV to support your narrative. I'm sure God loves being spit in the face by Truther modifying his words so they are read differently.

God Bless
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world


How is this modified specifically?
 
You can't help modifying the KJV to support your narrative. I'm sure God loves being spit in the face by Truther modifying his words so they are read differently.
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world
How is this modified specifically?

The point of the text is not focused around what you highlighted. The point is about whose name is and is not written in the book and when they were written.

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The point of the text is not focused around what you highlighted. The point is about whose name is and is not written in the book and when they were written.
The point is that you disagree with the highlighted.

No, you think I disagree with the highlighted when you are in reality abusing the text. The point OF THE VERSE is about whose name is and is not written in the book and when they were written.

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No, you think I disagree with the highlighted when you are in reality abusing the text. The point OF THE VERSE is about whose name is and is not written in the book and when they were written.

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...which negates this?....

8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world
 
No, you think I disagree with the highlighted when you are in reality abusing the text. The point OF THE VERSE is about whose name is and is not written in the book and when they were written.
...which negates this?....

8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world

Yes, I reject "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" because that is not a sentence found in the KJV of the Bible. I also reject "There is no God." when Psalm 14:1 says "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. ..." I look at the whole sentence as opposed to only seeing part of a sentence like you do. Revelation 13:8 says "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Why on earth would anyone reading this think, it's talking about when the Lamb was slain?

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