Is Jesus the creator?

[keiw]

If one does not believe in the Trinity the translation can become changed. Jews today have been conditioned to reject the Trinity of God.
How some decided to translate Elohim does not automatically correlate with what the Hebrew word actually says.
Confusion found in interpretation played a part in how was translated.

Another word mistranslated singular is what the Lord breathed into the nostrils of Adam's body.
It was not the breath of life, but breath of "lives."
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/39568/why-does-genesis-27-read-חַיִּ֑ים-plural-rather-than-singular

But? Because translators can not make sense of breath of lives? It gets translated most of the time as if it were in the singular.

Genesis 2:7 says that the man became a 'living soul.' Why a living soul? because the Lord breathed not only Adam's soul into the nostrils, but also giving Adam a human spirit. "Lives."

For unregenerate man is only soul and body.

When a person is regenerated he becomes body, soul, and human spirit! We then become a LIVING soul!
The unregenerated man is spiritually dead! Hence... "Let the dead bury their own dead." [Luke 9:60]

Adam having been created sinless? Was created spiritually alive! Having body, soul, and human spirit.
And, tthat is why that Hebrew says 'breath of lives!" Soul life, and spiritual life!

That its why it says Adam became a living soul!

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils
the breath of life (lives); and man became a living soul." (spiritually alive!)


grace and peace ....................

Israelites-NEVER served a trinity God while serving the true God.
Yes became a living soul, not was given a soul. There is no ghost like being inside of mortals.

 

[GeneZ]

Not for the true God in the Hebrew language. That is a fact of life.

I was brought up Jewish.... He believes their bias because he shares it.

 

[GeneZ]

Israelites-NEVER served a trinity God while serving the true God.
Yes became a living soul, not was given a soul. There is no ghost like being inside of mortals.

Sang it synagogue every Saturday service... Shama Ysrial! Adonoy Eluhenu, Adonoy Echad!

.................................... Hear O Israel! The Lord our God, the Lord is One.

Note!

............................The Lord (one) our God (two) the Lord (three) is Unique. (the only one).

Now, show us what you got?

Who spoke to Moses from the burning bush? Was it God? Yes!

Who was the "third man" that appeared to Abraham before his tent in Genesis 18?
We soon find out that one was Jehovah.

You need to catch up...

 

[Our Lord's God]

Not for the true God in the Hebrew language. That is a fact of life.

Confidence of your own ignorance isn't very wise is it? Don't pretend to know what you are talking about when you don't. It will just make you fall harder and it will hurt a lot more.

 

[keiw]

Confidence of your own ignorance isn't very wise is it? Don't pretend to know what you are talking about when you don't. It will just make you fall harder and it will hurt a lot more.

Matt 6:33- Keep on seeking-FIRST the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added(sustenance, covering, spirituality)

So all of creation has watched the trinity religions food pantry's fail both Jesus and the needy by not teaching this permanent fix along with the temp fix. Why? And yes it is always commendable to share, but the permanent fix is needed much more than the temp fix.
It proves 100% they do not listen to Jesus.

 

[keiw]

Sang it synagogue every Saturday service... Shama Ysrial! Adonoy Eluhenu, Adonoy Echad!

.................................... Hear O Israel! The Lord our God, the Lord is One.

Note!

............................The Lord (one) our God (two) the Lord (three) is Unique. (the only one).

Now, show us what you got?

Who spoke to Moses from the burning bush? Was it God? Yes!

Who was the "third man" that appeared to Abraham before his tent in Genesis 18?
We soon find out that one was Jehovah.

You need to catch up...

Israel NEVER served a trinity while serving the true God. Todays Israelite religion does not belong to the true God-Matt 23:38-39

 

[Our Lord's God]

Matt 6:33- Keep on seeking-FIRST the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added(sustenance, covering, spirituality)

It would be much better for you if you actually knew what that meant rather than just telling yourself that you do.

So all of creation has watched the trinity religions food pantry's fail both Jesus and the needy by not teaching this permanent fix along with the temp fix. Why? And yes it is always commendable to share, but the permanent fix is needed much more than the temp fix.
It proves 100% they do not listen to Jesus.

That's nice but we were talking about ho theos at John 1:1c.

 

[GeneZ]

Israel NEVER served a trinity while serving the true God. Todays Israelite religion does not belong to the true God-Matt 23:38-39

Israel knew that the Trinity was One God. That is, those who read the Hebrew and knew what they were reading.

Read Genesis 18.

 

[keiw]

Israel knew that the Trinity was One God. That is, those who read the Hebrew and knew what they were reading.

Read Genesis 18.

The Israelite religion-NEVER served a trinity God while serving the true God= 100% undeniable fact of life. Trinity clergy's twisting things make it seem so, but facts are facts. The sad thing is, they know 100% Israelite religion did NOT serve God as a trinity.

 

[keiw]

It would be much better for you if you actually knew what that meant rather than just telling yourself that you do.



That's nice but we were talking about ho theos at John 1:1c.

Yes i know. But all can see that when a truth from Jesus is posted by a JW, trinitarians throw it away as worthless and are never in agreement with Jesus' truth. Because they cannot see past self and are in noagreement as 2 Tim 3 shows how the world will be here in these last days, The true followers of Jesus-LOVE his true teachings.

 

[GeneZ]

The Israelite religion-NEVER served a trinity God while serving the true God= 100% undeniable fact of life. Trinity clergy's twisting things make it seem so, but facts are facts. The sad thing is, they know 100% Israelite religion did NOT serve God as a trinity.

The One True God was always a Trinity.

Did you take the time to read Genesis 18?

When the "three men" appeared?
Why is it said that the Lord appeared to Abraham? (Genesis 18:1)
One was the Lord. Two were angels!

Who was Abraham talking with face to face when the two angels left to go to Sodom? (Genesis 18:16-22) * verse 22!

"The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord."

You have to read the Word from the Torah to see what the Jews read and understood!

I once debated a Muslim (in his own thread) and when showing him that?
He disappeared having nothing to say! .. Even he could see it.

grace and peace ...................

 

[keiw]

The One True God was always a Trinity.

Did you take the time to read Genesis 18?

When the "three men" appeared?
Why is it said that the Lord appeared to Abraham? (Genesis 18:1)
One was the Lord. Two were angels!

Who was Abraham talking with face to face when the two angels left to go to Sodom? (Genesis 18:16-22) * verse 22!

"The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord."

You have to read the Word from the Torah to see what the Jews read and understood!

I once debated a Muslim (in his own thread) and when showing him that?
He disappeared having nothing to say! .. Even he could see it.

grace and peace ...................

The bible says YHWH, but the NT says-no man has EVER seen God-Thus-either he could not see YHWH or it was another speaking in YHWH,S NAME. The bible does not contradict itself-twisting what is said does because of inaccurate knowledge.

 

[Our Lord's God]

The bible says YHWH, but the NT says-no man has EVER seen God-Thus-either he could not see YHWH or it was another speaking in YHWH,S NAME. The bible does not contradict itself-twisting what is said does because of inaccurate knowledge.

Several contextual facts tell you it was three angels (and people ignore most of those facts).

FOR EXAMPLE:
The angels say:
13 for WE are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before YHWH that YHWH has sent US to destroy it.”

14 How Lot understood this:
Up, get out of this place, for YHWH will destroy the city.

There are several other facts which speak to the same thing. But wicked men always ignore facts which they don't like to hear.

 

[GeneZ]

The bible says YHWH, but the NT says-no man has EVER seen God-Thus-either he could not see YHWH or it was another speaking in YHWH,S NAME. The bible does not contradict itself-twisting what is said does because of inaccurate knowledge.

No one has seen God without the Trinity because its impossible. How far back can you stand from invisible omnipresence to see Him?
No matter how far back you stand? He will always be all around you and invisible!

That is why the Son is designated to be a human manifestation as to make who and what God is visible.
Visible in a manner humans will readily identify with.

"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen;
He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known]." John 1: 18

God was not stupid. He always knew we would need help in being made able to comprehend Him. He provided a perfect way to do so.
God through Jesus Christ makes Himself comprehensible to humans by providing the perfect means to make himself knowable to humans.


In other words?

If God were a man He would be Jesus!

"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen;
He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known]." John 1: 18

grace and peace .......

 

[keiw]

Several contextual facts tell you it was three angels (and people ignore most of those facts).

FOR EXAMPLE:
The angels say:
13 for WE are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before YHWH that YHWH has sent US to destroy it.”

14 How Lot understood this:
Up, get out of this place, for YHWH will destroy the city.

There are several other facts which speak to the same thing. But wicked men always ignore facts which they don't like to hear.

Yes-YHWH sent them, they came in his name.

 

[keiw]

No one has seen God without the Trinity because its impossible. How far back can you stand from invisible omnipresence to see Him?
No matter how far back you stand? He will always be all around you and invisible!

That is why the Son is designated to be a human manifestation as to make who and what God is visible.
Visible in a manner humans will readily identify with.

"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen;
He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known]." John 1: 18

God was not stupid. He always knew we would need help in being made able to comprehend Him. He provided a perfect way to do so.
God through Jesus Christ makes Himself comprehensible to humans by providing the perfect means to make himself knowable to humans.


In other words?

If God were a man He would be Jesus!

"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God
and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen;
He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known]." John 1: 18

grace and peace .......

God spoke from heaven at Jesus baptism. He did not come down here and let mortals kill him. God sent Jesus.
People are failing to realize-Jesus was Gods image( Coll 1:15) not God. But he showed us Gods loving side, but here at Rev 19:11 he will show us God who destroyed 99.9 % of mankind off his earth in Noah's day. They won't like that side-99% will fall at Rev 19.

 

[GeneZ]

God spoke from heaven at Jesus baptism. He did not come down here and let mortals kill him. God sent Jesus.

How does that change what I am saying?

 

[keiw]

How does that change what I am saying?

I added to my post

 

[Our Lord's God]

God spoke from heaven at Jesus baptism. He did not come down here and let mortals kill him. God sent Jesus.
People are failing to realize-Jesus was Gods image( Coll 1:15) not God.

Paul is referring to the RISEN Christ in this passage.

Yes, I know that does not suit the Watchtower's seriously mistaken interpretation of the passage.

But he showed us Gods loving side, but here at Rev 19:11 he will show us God who destroyed 99.9 % of mankind off his earth in Noah's day. They won't like that side-99% will fall at Rev 19.

 

[GeneZ]

I added to my post

And, you did not cover anything in mine!

Stop wasting time. Look!
Deal with these points.

If can not handle it?
Say so.

Here..


No one has seen God without the Trinity because its impossible. How far back can you stand from invisible omnipresence to see Him?
No matter how far back you stand? He will always be all around you and invisible!

That is why the Son is designated to be a human manifestation as to make who and what God is visible.
Visible in a manner humans will readily identify with.

"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God ​

and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.​

[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; ​

He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known]." John 1: 18​

God always knew we would need help in being made able to comprehend Him. He provided a perfect way to do so.
God through Jesus Christ makes Himself comprehensible to humans by providing the perfect means to make himself knowable to humans.


In other words?

If God were a man? He would be Jesus!

"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God ​

and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.​

[He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; ​

He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known]." John 1: 18​

Jesus is not God stopping being God. Jesus is God making Himself knowable to man in terms and thinking that man are able to relate to and understand..

grace and peace .......