Greetings again Richard7,
Acts 2:29–36 (KJV): 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 17:30–31 (KJV): 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
On the Day of Pentecost David had not been raised from the dead, nor was his immortal soul elsewhere, but he was both dead and buried. He was "asleep" in the dust of the earth.
Looking at the LDS Article "Atonement of Jesus Christ":
As used in the scriptures, to atone is to suffer the penalty for sins, thereby removing the effects of sin from the repentant sinner and allowing him or her to be reconciled to God. Jesus Christ was the only one capable of carrying out the Atonement for all mankind. Because of His Atonement, all people will be resurrected, and those who obey His gospel will receive the gift of eternal life with God.
I disagree with "to atone is to suffer the penalty for sins". Yes, Jesus did suffer as a result of sin, but "suffer the penalty for sins" speaks of the theory of substitution, while I believe his sacrifice was as our representative. Jesus as a human descendant from Adam and Eve partook of Adam's fallen nature, and was subject to death. He voluntarily submitted to suffering and death acknowledging the Justice of God in requiring this, but because he had done no sin, and because of God's love of His Son and His fellowship with His Son, and the plea of Jesus to save him from death, the grave could not hold him, and in God's mercy God raised him from the dead and gave him everlasting life. His body was not allowed to see corruption and return to the dust. By this means the sentence upon Adam and his descendants to return to the dust was halted and reversed in Jesus. All the faithful who have an affectionate belief in the Gospel of the Kingdom and Name and identify with Jesus in his death and resurrection by water baptism will be forgiven of their sins, and like Abraham they are thus justified by faith, and by this means thus receive forgiveness of their sins.
I disagree that "all people will be resurrected", as the faithful will be resurrected and given everlasting life, and also some of the wicked will be raised and rejected. Many will simply suffer the penalty of sin and will die and return to the dust and remain in the grave forever.
LDS Article "Atonement of Jesus Christ":
Jesus Christ redeems all people from the effects of the Fall. All people who have ever lived on the earth and who ever will live on the earth will be resurrected and brought back into the presence of God to be judged (see 2 Nephi 2:5-10; Helaman 14:15-17). Through the Savior’s gift of mercy and redeeming grace, we will all receive the gift of immortality and live forever in glorified, resurrected bodies.
No, refer above as only the faithful will receive everlasting life.
Kind regards
Trevor
The One God, Yahweh, God the Father raised the human Jesus, the Son of God from the dead.Only He had the power to lay down His life and take it up again. From His mortal mother, Mary, He inherited the ability to die. From His immortal Father, He inherited the power to overcome death. He declared, “As the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself” (John 5:26).
Acts 2:29–36 (KJV): 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 17:30–31 (KJV): 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
On the Day of Pentecost David had not been raised from the dead, nor was his immortal soul elsewhere, but he was both dead and buried. He was "asleep" in the dust of the earth.
All that hear the Gospel can avail the salvation through Jesus which will result in their resurrection. Most will die and remain dead as only few are saved.Through His death and Resurrection, He overcame physical death for us all.
Looking at the LDS Article "Atonement of Jesus Christ":
As used in the scriptures, to atone is to suffer the penalty for sins, thereby removing the effects of sin from the repentant sinner and allowing him or her to be reconciled to God. Jesus Christ was the only one capable of carrying out the Atonement for all mankind. Because of His Atonement, all people will be resurrected, and those who obey His gospel will receive the gift of eternal life with God.
I disagree with "to atone is to suffer the penalty for sins". Yes, Jesus did suffer as a result of sin, but "suffer the penalty for sins" speaks of the theory of substitution, while I believe his sacrifice was as our representative. Jesus as a human descendant from Adam and Eve partook of Adam's fallen nature, and was subject to death. He voluntarily submitted to suffering and death acknowledging the Justice of God in requiring this, but because he had done no sin, and because of God's love of His Son and His fellowship with His Son, and the plea of Jesus to save him from death, the grave could not hold him, and in God's mercy God raised him from the dead and gave him everlasting life. His body was not allowed to see corruption and return to the dust. By this means the sentence upon Adam and his descendants to return to the dust was halted and reversed in Jesus. All the faithful who have an affectionate belief in the Gospel of the Kingdom and Name and identify with Jesus in his death and resurrection by water baptism will be forgiven of their sins, and like Abraham they are thus justified by faith, and by this means thus receive forgiveness of their sins.
I disagree that "all people will be resurrected", as the faithful will be resurrected and given everlasting life, and also some of the wicked will be raised and rejected. Many will simply suffer the penalty of sin and will die and return to the dust and remain in the grave forever.
LDS Article "Atonement of Jesus Christ":
Jesus Christ redeems all people from the effects of the Fall. All people who have ever lived on the earth and who ever will live on the earth will be resurrected and brought back into the presence of God to be judged (see 2 Nephi 2:5-10; Helaman 14:15-17). Through the Savior’s gift of mercy and redeeming grace, we will all receive the gift of immortality and live forever in glorified, resurrected bodies.
No, refer above as only the faithful will receive everlasting life.
Kind regards
Trevor
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