Is Ted a monster?

Simpletruther

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Ted lives alone in the remote subarctic. A few scattered natives live in the area. One family is in such a difficult survival mode they drop their 6 year old off in his yard and leaving, hoping ted will take her in.

It’s in the middle of a blizzard in early winter. Ted answers the door and finds the cold little girl. It’s 30 below and she has minutes before dangerous hypothermia takes hold.

Ted ponders what taking this child in means. It means a major inconvenience. She will require feeding though he has a large stockpile more than enough. She will make a mess and he will be cleaning more. She could (though it seems a remote chance) even have a mental problem and kill him in his sleep. He would have to keep her until the late spring thaw at least 6 months before it would be feasible to take her to authorities.

Ted decides it’s his house, his food his labor and he has a right to use them how he sees fit and slams the door as she comes forward hoping for salvation. She cries for help but within 20 minutes she dies.

The questions on the table are is ted morally ok in this decision? Do you approve of ted? Should ted be held accountable in any way?
 

Faithoverbelief

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Ted lives alone in the remote subarctic. A few scattered natives live in the area. One family is in such a difficult survival mode they drop their 6 year old off in his yard and leaving, hoping ted will take her in.

It’s in the middle of a blizzard in early winter. Ted answers the door and finds the cold little girl. It’s 30 below and she has minutes before dangerous hypothermia takes hold.

Ted ponders what taking this child in means. It means a major inconvenience. She will require feeding though he has a large stockpile more than enough. She will make a mess and he will be cleaning more. She could (though it seems a remote chance) even have a mental problem and kill him in his sleep. He would have to keep her until the late spring thaw at least 6 months before it would be feasible to take her to authorities.

Ted decides it’s his house, his food his labor and he has a right to use them how he sees fit and slams the door as she comes forward hoping for salvation. She cries for help but within 20 minutes she dies.

The questions on the table are is ted morally ok in this decision? Do you approve of ted? Should ted be held accountable in any way?
Didn't we just play this game?
 

Backup

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Ted lives alone in the remote subarctic. A few scattered natives live in the area. One family is in such a difficult survival mode they drop their 6 year old off in his yard and leaving, hoping ted will take her in.

It’s in the middle of a blizzard in early winter. Ted answers the door and finds the cold little girl. It’s 30 below and she has minutes before dangerous hypothermia takes hold.

Ted ponders what taking this child in means. It means a major inconvenience. She will require feeding though he has a large stockpile more than enough. She will make a mess and he will be cleaning more. She could (though it seems a remote chance) even have a mental problem and kill him in his sleep. He would have to keep her until the late spring thaw at least 6 months before it would be feasible to take her to authorities.

Ted decides it’s his house, his food his labor and he has a right to use them how he sees fit and slams the door as she comes forward hoping for salvation. She cries for help but within 20 minutes she dies.

The questions on the table are is ted morally ok in this decision? Do you approve of ted? Should ted be held accountable in any way?
Is this some kind of "gotcha" about abortion?
 

Whateverman

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I highly doubt you will back up this falsehood.
This is your second thread on the same hypothetical situation. In the previous thread, you stomped around dismissing posts from people you dislike. Everyone who posted there will attest to the same thing.

Beyond this, no more "back up" is necessary. Our perception of your behavior isn't something you have the authority to question; the only thing you can do is correct or reinforce it.

Ball's in your court.
 

Simpletruther

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This is your second thread on the same hypothetical situation. In the previous thread, you stomped around dismissing posts from people you dislike. Everyone who posted there will attest to the same thing.

Beyond this, no more "back up" is necessary. Our perception of your behavior isn't something you have the authority to question; the only thing you can do is correct or reinforce it.

Ball's in your court.
Link? You are making this up.
 

Michael R2

Active member
Link? You are making this up.
Word for word.
 

Simpletruther

Well-known member
Word for word.
And where is the supposed "stomped around dismissing posts from people you dislike", which was what was in contention.
 

rossum

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Ted lives alone in the remote subarctic. A few scattered natives live in the area. One family is in such a difficult survival mode they drop their 6 year old off in his yard and leaving, hoping ted will take her in.

It’s in the middle of a blizzard in early winter. Ted answers the door and finds the cold little girl. It’s 30 below and she has minutes before dangerous hypothermia takes hold.

Ted ponders what taking this child in means. It means a major inconvenience. She will require feeding though he has a large stockpile more than enough. She will make a mess and he will be cleaning more. She could (though it seems a remote chance) even have a mental problem and kill him in his sleep. He would have to keep her until the late spring thaw at least 6 months before it would be feasible to take her to authorities.

Ted decides it’s his house, his food his labor and he has a right to use them how he sees fit and slams the door as she comes forward hoping for salvation. She cries for help but within 20 minutes she dies.

The questions on the table are is ted morally ok in this decision? Do you approve of ted? Should ted be held accountable in any way?
Ted says, "Sorry, little girl, I have booked me and my family into a hotel in Cancun for a few days." :D
 

Mr Laurier

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Ted lives alone in the remote subarctic. A few scattered natives live in the area. One family is in such a difficult survival mode they drop their 6 year old off in his yard and leaving, hoping ted will take her in.

It’s in the middle of a blizzard in early winter. Ted answers the door and finds the cold little girl. It’s 30 below and she has minutes before dangerous hypothermia takes hold.

Ted ponders what taking this child in means. It means a major inconvenience. She will require feeding though he has a large stockpile more than enough. She will make a mess and he will be cleaning more. She could (though it seems a remote chance) even have a mental problem and kill him in his sleep. He would have to keep her until the late spring thaw at least 6 months before it would be feasible to take her to authorities.

Ted decides it’s his house, his food his labor and he has a right to use them how he sees fit and slams the door as she comes forward hoping for salvation. She cries for help but within 20 minutes she dies.

The questions on the table are is ted morally ok in this decision? Do you approve of ted? Should ted be held accountable in any way?
We have already established that Ted is a horrible person. Deeply paranoid. And selfish.
 

Electric Skeptic

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Nay it's a pretty tight analogy, both can save a human with little risk or inconvenience and in both cases they are they only option available for the child.
No, it's a poor analogy. Some other person may come along and save the child. Her parents may come back for her. And she, unlike a fetus, is an actual born person.
 

Simpletruther

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No, it's a poor analogy. Some other person may come along and save the child. Her parents may come back for her. And she, unlike a fetus, is an actual born person.
It's a remote tundra. He knows nobody is coming in the next few minutes in a blizzard and he knows the child has minutes before she dies of exposure. That point is invalid.
 

Whateverman

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No, it's a poor analogy. Some other person may come along and save the child. Her parents may come back for her. And she, unlike a fetus, is an actual born person.
It's a remote tundra. He knows nobody is coming in the next few minutes in a blizzard and he knows the child has minutes before she dies of exposure. That point is invalid.
You being unwilling to address the point doesn't make it invalid.

You understand this, right?
 
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