ITs not over!

ferengi

Well-known member
THIS explains it very clearly
From President Trump’s ....Atty. Jenna Ellis...
Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president...
On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing... Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.
Remember... Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing...
The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!
The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.
If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.
President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!
This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.
Tic Toc... Tic Toc...
 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
This is so simple. All of the left winger crackpots consider Dec 14 as the end like a statute of limitations.

There is non on voter fraud
 

Backup

Active member
THIS explains it very clearly
From President Trump’s ....Atty. Jenna Ellis...
Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president...
On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing... Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.
Remember... Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing...
The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!
The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.
If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.
President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!
This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.
Tic Toc... Tic Toc...
lol

why do right-wing Trump Cultists hate free and fair elections?

why do you hate America?

there’s not a snowball’s chance in heck Trump remains president
 

LifeIn

Active member
If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.
That scenario assumed all the Republicans want to start a civil war. As matter of fact, most Republican legislators are supportive of American Democracy, and would hate to do something so unprecedented as to throw out all the votes of the people and install the dictator, Trump. Trump has lost every court case, even those presided over by Republican-appointed judges - even those presided over by his three hand-picked Supreme Court Justices. He thought he had them in his pocket. It turns out his judicial picks have more integrity than he does. The only reason you see Republican legislators grandstanding now by backing lawsuits of Trump is so that they can use that as evidence of loyalty to the Party when it comes time for their own re-election. Did you forget that? Did you forget that these legislators that you suppose are going to vote to throw out the electoral college vote are themselves going to be facing re-election? You can bet they haven't forgotten. Of course Trump could declare martial law, disband the congress and the courts, and goodbye American Democracy. But I don't think he will get anyone except Rudy to stand by him if he did that. On the other hand, if he simply moves out of the White House on January 20th, never having conceded, he stands to make a fortune on his Trump brand, thanks to all the publicity he got during his Presidency. But he can only reap that benefit if the American economy, which is spurred on my American Democracy, is alive and healthy. Trump may have been an awful President, but he is not so stupid as to throw away a guaranteed fortune from his loyal Twitter following for the uncertain future based on assuming dictatorial powers. I predict he will follow his business instinct and go for the sure thing and not kill the goose that continues to lay golden eggs for him.
 

ferengi

Well-known member
That scenario assumed all the Republicans want to start a civil war. As matter of fact, most Republican legislators are supportive of American Democracy, and would hate to do something so unprecedented as to throw out all the votes of the people and install the dictator, Trump.
Prove he is a dictator - why do you ignore blatant fraud and criminal theft on the election?
 

LifeIn

Active member
Prove he is a dictator - why do you ignore blatant fraud and criminal theft on the election?
He is not a dictator yet. He would be if he took power in the coup as proposed. I'm not sure he even wants to be a dictator. That's why I think he will go willingly.
 

ferengi

Well-known member
There is no evidence for voter fraud
Your ignorance does not make it so


The Electoral College's vote will not end President Donald Trump's hopes for reelection, as his allies are planning to send an "alternative" slate of electors to Congress, senior White House adviser Stephen Miller argued Monday as electors gathered nationwide to cast their votes.

"The only date in the Constitution is Jan. 20," Miller said on Fox News' "Fox & Friends." "We have more than enough time to right the wrong of this fraudulent election result and certify Donald Trump as the winner of the election."

Miller added that "as we speak, an alternate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we're going to send those results up to Congress. This will ensure that all of our legal remedies remain open. That means that if we win these cases in the courts, we can direct that the alternate state of electors be certified."

Miller said Trump supporters will be acting as "alternates" in the contested states of Michigan, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania and submit their own unofficial results.

If Trump's campaign succeeds in any of its continued legal efforts in those states, the "alternate" electors would be recognized by a joint session of Congress when it convenes on Jan. 6 to count the electoral votes and officially declare the winner of the election, Miller said.


The Washington Post reports that technically, alternative electors can meet and cast their own votes, as electors are picked for each candidate before the election is held. If their votes are then submitted to Congress, it must consider them.

If both chambers of Congress vote individually to accept Biden's electors, the dispute is considered as being resolved. If the chambers do not agree and each chamber identifies a different slate of electors, a tiebreaker using a certificate of ascertainment from a state comes into play.

A state executive has already certified Biden's win in each of the four states Trump is contesting, reports the Post.

Miller, however, argued that if "you just cured three simple constitutional defects, Donald Trump is the winner of this election."

He said signature matching rules in Georgia were "illegally changed as a result of a consent decree without the legislature's approval."
 

Backup

Active member
Your ignorance does not make it so


The Electoral College's vote will not end President Donald Trump's hopes for reelection, as his allies are planning to send an "alternative" slate of electors to Congress, senior White House adviser Stephen Miller argued Monday as electors gathered nationwide to cast their votes.

"The only date in the Constitution is Jan. 20," Miller said on Fox News' "Fox & Friends." "We have more than enough time to right the wrong of this fraudulent election result and certify Donald Trump as the winner of the election."

Miller added that "as we speak, an alternate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we're going to send those results up to Congress. This will ensure that all of our legal remedies remain open. That means that if we win these cases in the courts, we can direct that the alternate state of electors be certified."

Miller said Trump supporters will be acting as "alternates" in the contested states of Michigan, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania and submit their own unofficial results.

If Trump's campaign succeeds in any of its continued legal efforts in those states, the "alternate" electors would be recognized by a joint session of Congress when it convenes on Jan. 6 to count the electoral votes and officially declare the winner of the election, Miller said.


The Washington Post reports that technically, alternative electors can meet and cast their own votes, as electors are picked for each candidate before the election is held. If their votes are then submitted to Congress, it must consider them.

If both chambers of Congress vote individually to accept Biden's electors, the dispute is considered as being resolved. If the chambers do not agree and each chamber identifies a different slate of electors, a tiebreaker using a certificate of ascertainment from a state comes into play.

A state executive has already certified Biden's win in each of the four states Trump is contesting, reports the Post.

Miller, however, argued that if "you just cured three simple constitutional defects, Donald Trump is the winner of this election."

He said signature matching rules in Georgia were "illegally changed as a result of a consent decree without the legislature's approval."
newsmax

ha ha ha ha ha

Trump is a big, fat loser and his worshipers are traitors, who hate freedom and democracy
 

ferengi

Well-known member
newsmax

ha ha ha ha ha

Trump is a big, fat loser and his worshipers are traitors, who hate freedom and democracy
FACTS - AMichigan judge on Monday allowed the release of a report that finds intentional, systemic errors in programs designed by Dominion Voting Systems and that the errors are meant to influence election results.
The analysts who created the report, Allied Security Operations Group, published its forensics findings on the Antrim County, Mich., elections.


"We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results," reads the report. "The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication."

The forensics report was compiled in connection with a lawsuit from Antrim County resident William Bailey, who charged that there were problems with the voting machines.
The forensics report, which had been under seal until Monday, validated Bailey's claims.
"The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail," the report reads. "This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified."
The audit found an unusually high error rate in the ballot tabulations.
"The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%)," the report states. "We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity."
 

LifeIn

Active member
his allies are planning to send an "alternative" slate of electors to Congress
They can send whoever they want to Washington, but there is no legal mechanism for an "alternative" slate of electors to be taken seriously.
Only the electors legally sent by each state can present votes. Electors sent by some subset have no legal basis. Their effort is doomed to failure. It is a publicity stunt. Check back here on Jan 21st to see if you can say "I told you so" or if you have to eat crow.
 
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