I'm interested in what the BIBLE says.
edit...the bible says faith without works is dead...You are saying true saving faith.
Please quote where the BIBLE (not you) says "faith requires you to do something".
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But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
You are engaging in the logical fallacy of "shifting the burden of proof".
1) You make a bankrupt claim.
My claim is faith without works is dead...I get that from James are you saying that James is making a bankrupt claim also?
2) You provide ZERO evidence for it.
the scripture is my evidence...it does not say true saving faith
3) Someone challenges your claim.
They also challenged the scripture saying James meant to say true saving faith
4) You demand THEY prove their position, even when YOU have never proven YOURS.
I have a right to demand you prove where James said that
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Why, because of the truth?
You continue to make the same false claim.
Eph. 2:8-9 makes ZERO mention of "Moses".
Ok ...
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
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Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Paul is speaking to gentiles here. Gentiles were not saved by works of the Law as were the Jews who made a boast of their position.
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For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
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Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Paul is clear about abolishing the Law vs 15...therefore the reference in vs 9 is about works of the law. notice he mentions another works in vs 10
we are created unto good works... If they are the same "works" then it is a contradiction in terms...
FYI, I am not your "bro".
Please do not be so insulting as to call me "bro".
Ok I won't
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