TomFL said:
Oh so you think your opinion rather than Calvins words should interpret Calvins meaning
No, I believe Calvin's words should be interpreted in a way consistent with his theology.
You were given four verse previously where Calvin support an unlimited atonement
so his comments here are in line with the theology he expressed in those verses
TomFL said:
Do you really think that is a serious argument
Actually, yes.
I think it is rude and disrespectful to try to twist a person's words to make it contradictory to what he's already taught.
Indeed as you were given quotes previously where he taught unlimited atonement
so why are you being rude and disrespectful
Your doubts do not make for an argument
TomFL said:
Especially as a number of Calvin quotes produced spoke of an unlimited atonement
I would disagree.
But then, Calvin's theology is irrelevant.
Most of us here are "Sola Scriptura".
Well you had your chance to prove otherwise
Simply saying you disagree does not change the quotes
TomFL said:
It says that "every sinner should consider the fact that
he is not cut down in his sins".
So this is referring ONLY to saved sinners.
Sorry no not even close
You are wrong.
Sorry you don't like it.
Nope you read the quote poorly see below
Did you leave the rest of it out ?
Seems like the part about being given opportunity for eternal life is missing
any idea about that ?
TomFL said:
You never heard of JFB ?
You didn't identify it by the authors.
TomFL said:
Three famous Calvinist sources not just any sources but well known respected Calvinist sources plainly disagree with you
Not at all.
Calvin and Barnes can easily be interpreted in a way consistent with Calvinism.
Well then why did you not do it
And here is how everyone can see your bias.
You seem to plainly believe that I can read my theology into texts, either the Bible or of commentators. But you refuse to understand that you not only can, but repeatedly ARE projecting your own interpretations onto texts.
And it appears you do
Were Calvin, Barnes and JFB reading my theology into ther text as well
They came to the same conclusion
You seem incapable of distinguishing between what a text actually says, and what your interpretation of it is.
Well lets see four Calvinist authors agree with what i saw in the text
none agreed with you
so who seems to be having a problem between distinguishing what the text sasys and the interpretation of it
TomFL said:
here is a fourth
Some will perish (verse 7), but that is not God’s desire. Any (τινας [tinas]). Rather than “some” (τινες [tines]) above. Accusative with the infinitive ἀπολεσθαι [apolesthai] (second aorist middle of ἀπολλυμι [apollumi]. God wishes “all” (παντας [pantas]) to come (χωρησαι [chōrēsai] first aorist active infinitive of χωρεω [chōreō], old verb, to make room). See Acts 17:30; Rom. 11:32; 1 Tim. 2:4; Heb. 2:9 for God’s provision of grace
for all who will repent.
A.T. Robertson, Word Pictures in the New Testament (Nashville, TN: Broadman Press, 1933), 2 Pe 3:9.
And yet again, you IGNORE the part which refutes your view, and supports mine.
You have not identified any part of the text which supports your view
seems you are given to making unsupported claims
