Jesus is GOD the SON...He is NOT the FATHER.

When dealing with doctrine we must go by the end results...
No one in the New Testament identifies Jesus as the Father...
Over 200 times he is called the SON...
The Father Jesus doctrine has no foundation.
 

SeventhDay

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When dealing with doctrine we must go by the end results...
No one in the New Testament identifies Jesus as the Father...
Over 200 times he is called the SON...
The Father Jesus doctrine has no foundation.
Here in this scripture is the proof that Jesus is the one and only God called the Father.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Here we have one God in expression, and it is God in a Father and Son relationship, and it is indicated by the preposition "with" meaning toward or pointing to God or face to face with God.

If Jesus is the Son in the Father and the Father in the Son, then God has interchangeable roles of his own personage.

God includes Father and Son which Jesus is or there in no God at all!


God bless you.
 

101G

Well-known member
When dealing with doctrine we must go by the end results...
No one in the New Testament identifies Jesus as the Father...
Over 200 times he is called the SON...
The Father Jesus doctrine has no foundation.
ADDRESSING the OP.
is not the term "Father" synonyms with "FIRST?" as in the creator or originator of something? yes, please look it up. and is not the Lord Jesus the HEAD/FIRST of the Church? let's check the Record.

Colossians 1:16 "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:" Colossians 1:17 "And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." Colossians 1:18 "And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence."
here the term preeminence means, G4409 πρωτεύω proteuo (prō-tev'-ō) v.
to be first (in rank or influence).
[from G4413]
KJV: have the preeminence
Root(s): G4413

to be first in anything is the title rendered.

as HEAD of the Church, head when used as a noun as The person commanding most authority within a group or an organization, as here in Colossians 1:18, it is synonyms with "Father", and since Jesus is the HEAD of us, his Body, the church, then he is our Father of all who are BORN AGAIN.

so clearly the Lord Jesus is referred to as Father in the NT as well as in the Book of Revelation

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