Jesus is LORD!
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Photine
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and while u are at it, where or WHO did Love come by?
God's love, and mercy came by Christ.
Luke 1:78
because of the tender mercy of our God, by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven
Luke 1:50
And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
OldShepherd
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2 Corinthians 3:14-17
(14) But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
(15) But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
(16) Nevertheless when it [Israel vs. 13] shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
(17) Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
"The vail is done away in Christ." [equals] "turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.""the Lord is that Spirit." Thus Jesus is the Lord.(14) But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
(15) But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
(16) Nevertheless when it [Israel vs. 13] shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
(17) Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Photine
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Yeshua is the substance of God on whom our hope is.
There is nothing beyond Him that we can perceive. Actually people are deceived into believing there is another Person called The Father by surface reading of scriptures. When He says He goes to The Father He didn't mean The Father is stationed somewhere else and there is a transport of some sort. God as Invisible Spirit has no place, time, or visible form.
Yeshua Himself is The God in Spirit as The Father:
1Tim 6:
14 that you guard the command b spotlessly, blamelessly, until the appearing of our Master יהושע Messiah,
15 which in His own seasons He shall reveal – the blessed and only Ruler, the Sovereign of sovereigns and Master of masters,
16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or is able to see, to whom be respect and everlasting might. Amĕn.
He came to fulfill all His promises in the Lowercase of the power of YHAW. In OT, YHWH revealed Himself in duality of powers - in the uppercase and in lowercase. Not two Persons but one! People don't understand thid difference and in ignorance make Yeshua a created being.
The Christendom with its various denominations teach all trash that will deprive people of their salvation.
ReverendRV
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I knew you would agree Jesus is LORD...
ReverendRV
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@Christian says Jesus is LORD!
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Our Lord's God
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Christian says the only God is our Lord's God.
Because the Bible says so several times.
But you plainly do not care what it says.
Christian
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Joel 2:32
32 "And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Will be delivered;
For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
There will be those who escape,
As the Lord has said,
Even among the survivors whom the Lord calls.
Here we see Paul quote this OT passage about YHWH and apply it to Jesus who is the one and only Lord according to the N.T.
Romans 10:9-13
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
So a person must confess Jesus is YHWH(Lord) to be saved. Confess means to agree with so the person confessing Jesus is Lord is in agreement that He is YHWH. Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord ( YHWH) will be saved.
John 12:41
These things Isaiah said, because he saw His glory, and he spoke of Him
Isaiah 6:1-5
In the year of King, Uzziah's death, I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the temple. 2 Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings; with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one called out to another and said,
"Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord of hosts,,
The whole earth is full of His glory."
4 And the foundations of the thresholds trembled at the voice of him who called out, while the temple was filling with smoke. 5 Then I said,
5"Woe is me, for I am ruined!,
Because I am a man of unclean lips,
And I live among a people of unclean lips;,
For my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts."
2 Peter 1:16-18
Nor we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”[b] 18 We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.
Hebrews 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.
One need only follow the pronouns and the verbs. Isaiah saw the glory of YHWH. There is only ONE time that Isaiah saw the glory of YHWH; its in Ish 6. John says that Isaiah saw "his" glory, the glory of Jesus. That Isaiah ALSO foretold the suffering and rejection of Christ is true but irrelevant. You are confusing what Isaiah foretold (Christ's suffering and rejection) with what he literally "saw" (the glory of YWHW).
The verb Isaiah used for "saw" in 6;1 is רָאָה ("ra'ah"). In the qal, it refers to the act of seeing in the literal sense, to see with the eyes (as opposed to, for example, מַחֲזֶה "machazeh", which is the act or event of an ecstatic "vision"). In refering to this event, John uses the Greek word εἶδον ("eidon") - also a verb refering to the act of seeing with the eyes in the natural sense.
We know that God the Father is invisible, "whom no man hath seen, nor can see" (1 Tim 6:16). He is transcendent and lives in unapproachable light (1 Tim 6:16). But the Son is "the image of the invisible God" (Col 1:15). Thus the one whom Isaiah "saw" in the literal sense with his eyes is the one whom he explicitly identified as "YHWH" - the same one whose glory he saw according to John (Jn 12:41). Jesus himself makes this clear at v.45 "And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me."
There is only ONE time when Isaiah saw someone he, speaking by the Holy Spirit identified as "YHWH", and John's spirit-inspired narrative of the interactions of Jesus with the Jews in the 11th and 12th chapter of his gospel, including their rejection of Christ, says that what Isaiah saw was HIS (ie Jesus') glory. This works in perfect harmony with John's whole purpose, given the FACT that John had previously identified the one who became flesh and dwelt among us (Jn 1:14) as "God" (Jn 1:1). Nowhere in the context of this narrative (ie Ch 12) does John speak of Christ's "glorification" in his rejection and crucifixion. To claim that this is what John was talking about in refering to what Isaiah SAW with his eyes ignores the grammar and the immediate context, including the clear and unmistakable words of Christ himself in that very context.
hope this helps !!!
Photine
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Great post. Still no trinity though.
God bless you.
P.s.: nice fish! Is that a tuna?
Christian
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50lb Salmon
Photine
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50lb Salmon
Wow!
johnny guitar
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Jesus is The ONE Lord, The Lord of ALL.
Deal with it.
Photine
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But not the Lord in 2 Cor 3:17 eh?
Our Lord's God
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It is unbelievable just how many people refuse to listen to Jesus. Why do you refuse to hear him?
The Father's Promise
And behold, I am sending forth the promise of my Father upon you; but you are to stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high. Luke 24:49
Gathering them together, he commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, “Which,” he said, “you heard of from me for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.... you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you. Acts 1:4-8
For these men are not drunk, as you suppose, for it is only the third hour of the day; but this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: ‘And it shall be in the last days,’ God says, ‘That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh.... Acts 2:15ff.
WHO made this promise through the prophet Joel? What did Jesus say?
Jesus STATED that the FATHER made this promise; the FATHER said these words:
27 Thus you will know that I am in the midst of Israel,
and that I am the LORD your God, and there is no other;
and My people will never be put to shame.
28 “It will come about after this
That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh;
And your sons and daughters will prophesy,
Your old men will dream dreams,
Your young men will see visions.
29 “Even on the male and female servants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days...
32 “And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the LORD
Will be delivered.
Who is speaking? What did Jesus say?
Thus you will know that I am in the midst of Israel,
and that I am the LORD your God, and there is no other;
The only God is our Lord Jesus Christ's God.
johnny guitar
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Nope.
Photine
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So you have two lords.
johnny guitar
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Nope.