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BMS

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It was the bible. I was raised on a steady diet of christian mythology
The Bible doesnt describe Jesus as you did, a composite of gods. So it is reasonable for people to question you further to ascertain what exactly you are imagining
 

BMS

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Because I didnt. I said that Jesus WAS a composite of many gods, and HEROES, etc etc etc....
Ok so there is no possible support in the Bible for that. So you didnt get that from the Bible as you claimed, so I will ask you again, where do you think you got that idea from?
 

Mr Laurier

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Ok so there is no possible support in the Bible for that.
BINGO!
So look outside the bible.....


So you didnt get that from the Bible as you claimed, so I will ask you again, where do you think you got that idea from?
And since I did not claim to have gotten the facts from the bible....
Try side by side comparison with Greek, Roman, Egyptian, and Persian, mythology.
 

BMS

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BINGO!
So look outside the bible.....
no, you referred to a storybook for that, I asked you which storybook and you said the Bible. There is nothing to support your view in the Biblical testimony. There is also nothing contemporary outside the Bible to support your claim. Your claim is infounded and unsupported and we have taken post after post to expose it because of your intransigence
 

Mr Laurier

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no, you referred to a storybook for that, I asked you which storybook and you said the Bible. There is nothing to support your view in the Biblical testimony. There is also nothing contemporary outside the Bible to support your claim. Your claim is infounded and unsupported and we have taken post after post to expose it because of your intransigence
Wow. "intransigence". Wilt thou summoneth yon magistrate to have me cast into irons?
Doeth thou care to reporteth my championing of good queen Catherine as well?
Shalt thou raiseth the hue and cry?
 

BMS

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Wow. "intransigence". Wilt thou summoneth yon magistrate to have me cast into irons?
Doeth thou care to reporteth my championing of good queen Catherine as well?
Shalt thou raiseth the hue and cry?
So its not from the Bible that you get your ideas, not from the testimony of the contemporary community.
 

Mr Laurier

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So its not from the Bible that you get your ideas, not from the testimony of the contemporary community.
And not from the preaching of clergy....
I like to study history. Studying the history of the bible, and the q'ran, led me to some very interesting facts.
 

BMS

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And not from the preaching of clergy....
I like to study history. Studying the history of the bible, and the q'ran, led me to some very interesting facts.
Ok you should have specified that rather than implying you get your ideas of Jesus as a composite God from the Bible
 

Mr Laurier

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Ok you should have specified that rather than implying you get your ideas of Jesus as a composite God from the Bible
You didnt ask where I got the idea of Jesus being a composite. You asked what storybook I was using.
 

BMS

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You didnt ask where I got the idea of Jesus being a composite. You asked what storybook I was using.
I did. You said "Jesus is a character in a story book. He is not "God the Son". Nor is he a holy prophet. He is a composit of several gods and heroes."
And I have been asking you where you got that idea from because its not from the Bible
 

Mr Laurier

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I did. You said "Jesus is a character in a story book. He is not "God the Son". Nor is he a holy prophet. He is a composit of several gods and heroes."
And I have been asking you where you got that idea from because its not from the Bible
And I pointed out that I got the idea from history.
 

cjab

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I did. You said "Jesus is a character in a story book. He is not "God the Son". Nor is he a holy prophet. He is a composit of several gods and heroes."
And I have been asking you where you got that idea from because its not from the Bible

And I pointed out that I got the idea from history.

Of course it depends on which Jesus you're talking about. Is it the High Trinitarian "God the Son" i.e. Jesus as "God the Son" and not "son of God?" If so this Jesus may be fictional, as "God the Son" (inferring full parity with God the Father) doesn't appear in the bible. Neither is the Word of God presented as God the (heavenly begotten) Son after the pagan manner of gods begetting gods.

The only "Jesus" that appears in the bible is a fully human Jesus, who pre-existed to be sure, and who ascended to God's right hand to be sure. Yet anyone talking about the biblical Jesus as a composite of gods or Gods is on the wrong playing field. They may only talk about the High Trinitarian Jesus in such terms. They may not talk about a human being in such terms.

This is why, in the one aspect of his humanity alone, the Islamic Jesus may be closer to biblical reality than the High Trinitarian Jesus.
 

JonHawk

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But how does one decide which is correct? Do I follow Jesus and his teachings or Muhammad and his teachings?
You can follow both, since they overlap very extensively
The obvious distinction, as the Muslim in the video below describes, is that he believes his god will accept his flawed humanistic endeavors.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lqF_AFxkd5w

And at the revelation of Jesus Christ, they imagine that the King of Glory would "naturally subject himself to their dead prophet mohammed," 1:20/4:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=s0jfPmcG8EY

 
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