sure you have follow alongAre you just not reading anything for understanding? Back peddling? I have not changed what I am saying.
Regeneration is an instant miracle. Fruit grows over time, even miraculous fruit still has to grow and mature.
Paul and Jesus would not have used fruit as a metaphor if there was no time involved
1- I said miracles are instantaneous to which you agreed.
2- You agree the new birth was a miracle
3- The miracle of the new birth one has the spirit of God dwelling in them
4- The spirit only produces fruit
5- There is no time-frame with the things of the spirit.
6- I and many others upon the miracle of the new birth experienced the fruit of the spirit mentioned in Galatians 5 immediately upon conversion
7- You now want to say the Physical equals the Spiritual when its CONVENIENT
8- Spiritually Dead in your world is different than spiritually dead- Contradictions anyone ?
9- You cannot have your cake and eat it too
10- Back to the drawing board with your JW buddies.