Jesus, the human born, how should we see him?

first thanks for the reply, second, poor excuse. try again, next.

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Those blinded by Christianity will never learn.

The title 'The Son of God' is temporary. His role will end when all Israel (whom He represented and Mediated for) will be saved and all individuals will be adopted as sons in the family. The last enemy death will be subdued.

As long as these so called Christians come out from the delusion that Church has replaced Israel they will never understand either The Father or The Son (in which context these titles exist).

They need to hear the true gospel message and it's scope and then will understand what's obedience to God.

We are living in times like it was during Noah's time. You won't find many believers with whom you can fellowship with.
 
The Holy Spirit conceived the body of the MANJesus who has NO father.
WRONG again Johnny! Luke 1:34-35 tells us the Holy Spirit & The power of the Most High ( God the Father ) caused the conception of His body in the virgin Mary's womb! And yes He had NO Biological human father that caused that conception! Joseph was His human step or foster father! Case closed!
 
WRONG again Johnny! Luke 1:34-35 tells us the Holy Spirit & The power of the Most High ( God the Father ) caused the conception of His body in the virgin Mary's womb! And yes He had NO Biological human father that caused that conception! Joseph was His human step or foster father! Case closed!
The Holy Spirit conceived, The Father protected, Jesus Christ was born.
Indeed, case closed.
 
The Holy Spirit conceived, The Father protected, Jesus Christ was born.
Indeed, case closed.
scripture states, the Holy Spirit conceived the child period. Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost." that's case closed.

JG u been caught in a three person ERROR. following these supposed educated men instead of God will leave you in the ditch every time.

you're in a three-person Godhead delusion, 2 Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"

get out before it's too late,

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The Holy Spirit conceived, The Father protected, Jesus Christ was born.
Indeed, case closed.
It does NOT say the Father protected! FYI again it was the POWER of the Most High that created the needed " Y " chromosome to produce a MALE body when united with one of the Virgin Mary's " X " chromosome eggs and the Holy Spirt came upon her to implant that needed "Y" that God the Father created! The Virgin Mary is who conceived that baby! Yes case closed!
 
It does NOT say the Father protected! FYI again it was the POWER of the Most High that created the needed " Y " chromosome to produce a MALE body when united with one of the Virgin Mary's " X " chromosome eggs and the Holy Spirt came upon her to implant that needed "Y" that God the Father created! The Virgin Mary is who conceived that baby! Yes case closed!
Rodney, the Bible doesn't teach what you have posted. Yeshua's body wasn't from Mary or else He would have to fight lusts of the flesh within like us Paul says in Romans 7 that in our flesh nothing good dwells.

Rom 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don’t find it doing that which is good.

Yeshua's Body was prepared from heaven:

Heb 10: 5 Therefore when he comes into the world, he says, “You didn’t desire sacrifice and offering, but you prepared a body for me.

There are no Mary's Chromosomes in Him. That's why His birth is a supernatural birth.

He offered Himself wholly for His people on the cross. In fact, His people too were offered with Him

In the OT, there was grain offering along with animal sacrifices. The poorest man could offer only flour but had to offer with someone's animal sin offering on the same altar to be acceptable as sin offering. One cannot offer grain offering standalone like Cain did but rather as Abel did.

The grain/flour stands for God's people offered along with Yeshua Messiah.

We are insufficient in ourselves and that's why we needed to be in Messiah's offering. That's why Messiah's Body could not have been derived from Mary. Her womb was only borrowed so that He would have lineage of David/Judah as prophesied.
 
Rodney, the Bible doesn't teach what you have posted. Yeshua's body wasn't from Mary or else He would have to fight lusts of the flesh within like us Paul says in Romans 7 that in our flesh nothing good dwells.

Rom 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don’t find it doing that which is good.

Yeshua's Body was prepared from heaven:

Heb 10: 5 Therefore when he comes into the world, he says, “You didn’t desire sacrifice and offering, but you prepared a body for me.

There are no Mary's Chromosomes in Him. That's why His birth is a supernatural birth.

He offered Himself wholly for His people on the cross. In fact, His people too were offered with Him

In the OT, there was grain offering along with animal sacrifices. The poorest man could offer only flour but had to offer with someone's animal sin offering on the same altar to be acceptable as sin offering. One cannot offer grain offering standalone like Cain did but rather as Abel did.

The grain/flour stands for God's people offered along with Yeshua Messiah.

We are insufficient in ourselves and that's why we needed to be in Messiah's offering. That's why Messiah's Body could not have been derived from Mary. Her womb was only borrowed so that He would have lineage of David/Judah as prophesied.
100% WRONG Anthony! The SIN Nature is ONLY carried on through the seed of the Male and Not the seed of the Woman! Yes indeed one of Mary's " X " Chromosome eggs was used to produce a Male body in her womb! Jesus was born with a SIN free body and He never SINNED! There is no " Y " chromosome from a human father! Thus that is why the CONCEPTION ( NOT His Birth Anthony ) was supernatural because the power of the Most High ( God the Father ) in Luke 1:34-35 created the needed " Y " chromosome ( with no Sin nature ) that the Holy Spirit then implanted in one of the Virgin Mary's " X " chromosome eggs when He came upon her! He is both fully human as a man ( John 1:14 ) and fully God as the Word of John 1:1! The blood of animals was only sufficient to temporary cover Sin! Only the Blood of a SIN free human could Permanently cover the Sins of people that accept Him as Lord & Savior! Case closed! Mary is His Biological human mother as He has her DNA, but ONLY God the Father & Holy Spirit are His Direct Father and Joseph was only His human step or Foster father and those two gave Him the right to the throne of David as Mary's father was Joseph's father in law " Heli " from NATHAN'S side of king David as per Luke 3:23+31', and Joseph's real Father ( Mary's father in law ) was Jacob ( not Nathan who is RALLY Mary's real father, Anthony ) as per Matt.1:16! So Jacob ( Joseph's real father ) came from Solomon's side of King David as per Matt.1:6! By having these two sides of King David through Nathan & Solomon, Jesus gets around the curse and is able to become the King of Israel and to sit on King David's throne ( as He will ) on His Immediate post trib. ( Matt.24:29-30 ) return to REIGN for 1000 years as per Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6 in conjunction with Zech.14:4-16!
 
100% WRONG Anthony! The SIN Nature is ONLY carried on through the seed of the Male and Not the seed of the Woman! Yes indeed one of Mary's " X " Chromosome eggs was used to produce a Male body in her womb!
produce those scriptures that says that. BOOK, chapter, and verse please.

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It does NOT say the Father protected! FYI again it was the POWER of the Most High that created the needed " Y " chromosome to produce a MALE body when united with one of the Virgin Mary's " X " chromosome eggs and the Holy Spirt came upon her to implant that needed "Y" that God the Father created! The Virgin Mary is who conceived that baby! Yes case closed!
The Holy Spirit conceived, and that is all we know.
The rest is gibberish.
 
The Holy Spirit conceived, and that is all we know.
The rest is gibberish.
the rest is not gibberish, as u say, Luke 2:39 "And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth."
Luke 2:40 "And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him." the story continue.
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the rest is not gibberish, as u say, Luke 2:39 "And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth."
Luke 2:40 "And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him." the story continue.
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This post is irrelevant to His conception.
 
produce those scriptures that says that. BOOK, chapter, and verse please.

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I know he is another rebel.

Christianity has deceived millions and they don't understand The Torah. In reality, they never believe in the true Messiah but an heathen.
 
100% WRONG Anthony! The SIN Nature is ONLY carried on through the seed of the Male and Not the seed of the Woman! Yes indeed one of Mary's " X " Chromosome eggs was used to produce a Male body in her womb! Jesus was born with a SIN free body and He never SINNED! There is no " Y " chromosome from a human father! Thus that is why the CONCEPTION ( NOT His Birth Anthony ) was supernatural because the power of the Most High ( God the Father ) in Luke 1:34-35 created the needed " Y " chromosome ( with no Sin nature ) that the Holy Spirit then implanted in one of the Virgin Mary's " X " chromosome eggs when He came upon her! He is both fully human as a man ( John 1:14 ) and fully God as the Word of John 1:1! The blood of animals was only sufficient to temporary cover Sin! Only the Blood of a SIN free human could Permanently cover the Sins of people that accept Him as Lord & Savior! Case closed! Mary is His Biological human mother as He has her DNA, but ONLY God the Father & Holy Spirit are His Direct Father and Joseph was only His human step or Foster father and those two gave Him the right to the throne of David as Mary's father was Joseph's father in law " Heli " from NATHAN'S side of king David as per Luke 3:23+31', and Joseph's real Father ( Mary's father in law ) was Jacob ( not Nathan who is RALLY Mary's real father, Anthony ) as per Matt.1:16! So Jacob ( Joseph's real father ) came from Solomon's side of King David as per Matt.1:6! By having these two sides of King David through Nathan & Solomon, Jesus gets around the curse and is able to become the King of Israel and to sit on King David's throne ( as He will ) on His Immediate post trib. ( Matt.24:29-30 ) return to REIGN for 1000 years as per Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6 in conjunction with Zech.14:4-16!
Those scriptures don't prove your point. You are deceived into believing that no female has ever come with her father's chromosomes. Stop this nonsense from Christianity and don't teach her without understanding first understanding of Torah. Yeshua Messiah is the living Torah Who must rule our minds and hearts. There is no truth in Christianity which is not based on scriptures.
 
Those scriptures don't prove your point. You are deceived into believing that no female has ever come with her father's chromosomes. Stop this nonsense from Christianity and don't teach her without understanding first understanding of Torah. Yeshua Messiah is the living Torah Who must rule our minds and hearts. There is no truth in Christianity which is not based on scriptures.
Yes a Female has her Father's " X " chromosome as well as her Mother's "X " chromosome! FYI the females " X" chromosome in their eggs do NOT come from their Father and only from their mother! Jesus's "X " chromosome came from His mother Mary's egg! Only the human Father's " X & Y " chromosomes carry on the Sin Nature! Men are " XY " ( and some of their sperm are " X " and some are " Y " and both types of those sperm carry on the sin nature ) & women are " XX ", and one of those X's of theirs ( which are in her eggs ) has NO sin nature to pass on! Thus No nonsense at all since scriptures POINT Blank say He became one of us ( Human - in John 1: 11+14 ) to dwell with us! Thus to be like us ( human ) He 100% MUST have DNA from His mother ( Mary - her " X " chromosome egg ) and ABSOLUTELY Must ( in order to be a Male - which He is as Jesus ) have a human " Y " chromosome or else He would NOT be human like us! Thus like I correctly stated " the Power of the Most High ( God the Father - in Luke 1:34-35 ) created that NEEDED human " Y " chromosome for the Holy Spirit to implant ( when He came upon Mary in Luke 1:34 & Matt.1:20 ) in one of Mary's " X " chromosome eggs in her womb in order for her to CONCEIVE a male baby! FYI, your say so on the matter would NOT have Him to be a real human like we are! Also in order to rights to King David's Throne ( which He does ) since scriptures say He will REIGN on David's throne in Jerusalem on planet earth ( see Isaiah 9:7 in conjunction with Acts 2:29-32 and Rev.20:4-6, as well as Zech.14:4-16 ) he has to have human DNA through King David's linage! So Case closed on your say so! Jesus is the descendant of King David, who will REIGN on that throne at His Post Trib. ( Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6 ) return!
 
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The Holy Spirit conceived, and that is all we know.
The rest is gibberish.
FYI again, Luke 1:34-35 is NOT gibberish! It is scripture ( GOD's say so to us ) and it CLEARLY shows the Power of the Most High ( God the Father, Johny ) was involved with the conception! Case closed on your 100% WRONG say so that ONLY the Holy Spirit was involved! Those posted scriptures PROVE it! Thus, End of debate!
 
FYI again, Luke 1:34-35 is NOT gibberish! It is scripture ( GOD's say so to us ) and it CLEARLY shows the Power of the Most High ( God the Father, Johny ) was involved with the conception! Case closed on your 100% WRONG say so that ONLY the Holy Spirit was involved! Those posted scriptures PROVE it! Thus, End of debate!
No debate. And your post was gibberish; Luke 1:34-35 is NOT.
 
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