Federal HeadShip is indeed taught in the scriptures! And the Man is the heard of the woman! Thus He is responsible and does indeed pass on the SIN nature! That's EXACTLY why God the Word ( of John 1:1 ) could NOT have a human father "Y " chromosome placed in one of Mary's eggs to produce the Flesh of John 1:14 ( for Him to become God-Man )! Case closed!
Jesus, the human born, how should we see him?
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OldShepherd
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You have misrepresented scripture. All men are NOT the head of all women. The husband is the head of the wife. I have a wife and I am the only one who tells her what to do.
Well that's what I really meant! Now back to my POINT - Sin nature is ONLY passed on by the Father in his " X " & " Y " chromosomes in his sperm! The female "X " chromosome egg will NEVER pass in Sin nature! The power of the Most High ( God the Father - in Luke 1:35 ) created Jesus's " Y " chromosome that the Holy Spirit implanted in one of Mary's " X " chromosome eggs, when He came upon her ( in Luke 1:35 in conjunction with Matt.1:20 )!
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You are still in your deception of Trinity.
You are only reading the 2nd half of the Bible and have no Idea that it's YHWH (God's Name) Who revealed Himself as The Father. Father is the title with regards to Israel in covenant relationship. His poetic shortened Name is YAH which is used in the NT in:
Rev 19:1 And after this I heard a loud voice of a great crowd in the heaven, saying, “Halleluyah! Deliverance and esteem and respect and power to יהוה our Elohim!
Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
The Hebrew word for 'Alleluia' is 'HalleluYAH'. And The LORD is YHWH. In Greek and English it's hidden.
Rev 19: 3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
The Name is still there.
Besides, there are so many OT quotations in the NT which use the Name YHWH:
Acts 2:21 And it will be that whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ b
But what is the Name of The Lord? It's silly that the Name is hidden in translation. ( It's a testing program for the lost sheep of Israel).
But the quote in Acts 2:21 is taken from Joel, minor prophet sent to Israel:
Joel 2: 32 “And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be delivered. b For on Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim there shall be an escape c as יהוה has said, and among the survivors whom יהוה calls.- Ts2009
Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call H7121 on the name H8034 of the LORD H3068 shall be delivered H4422:
It's calling on The Name of YHWH on which The Son's Name Yahoshua or Yahusha in Hebrew and Yeshua in Aramaic.
Hence the Father and The Son are Titles.
How ignorant you are Johnny! Why are you calling on Jesus if The Son is a Name? The Father and The Son are titles and not Names. The Father has a Name and His Son has a Name.
Obviously, you are so blinded in your doctrine of Trinity that you can't see The Name YAH, a common denominator for The Name of The Father and The Son.
The Son is not a 2nd Person of Trinity. He is the same YHWH Who became our Salvation - Isaiah 12:1-2
Obviously you can't come out of your extra-Biblical stuff. Bible says Yeshua was the Child of The Holy Spirit. His birth is Supernatural and nothing common to sinful and fallen humanity. Stop your nonsense!
Nothing good dwells in our flesh. Not so with Yeshua Who was incapable of sin because He is God in flesh and His Body was prepared for Him. Just believe in scriptures and get rid of pride.
johnny guitar
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johnny guitar
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The name YHWH NOT in The NT; ONLY Father, Son, Holy Spirit is.
Still you are talking nonsense! You are calling The Son, Jesus! If His Name is Jesus, then The Son is a title. Don't be brainless. You are demonstrating your bankrupt doctrine just as Newbirth, Rodney and others what is Alleluia? Is there the Name of God in that? It's really madness to explain to you!
johnny guitar
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Jesus is the name of a MAN. He is ALSO The Divine Son of God.
You don't understand what you are saying. Jesus is The Divine Name which means YHWH is Salvation. YHWH became our Savior/ Salvation. There is nothing like a Divine Son. God doesn't have a Divine Son - this is Babylonian stuff. The Son is by means of a covenant as decreed by God. It's Israel who is the son partakers of Divine holiness. The Son of God is the true Israel of God not only came to represent Israel but also Mediate for Israel.
But as God, He never lost His Deity but didn't hold on to His reputation as He came with a mission to save and give spiritual sonship to Israel which failed to keep God's Torah and having fallen under curse.
He is not going to be The Son of God when all sons are adopted into God's family. He will be the Everlasting Father in the age to come.
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The Name is there but you are reading the NT with a blind spot. Besides you are nullifying the OT. The Name of The Father is YHWH from which Yahoshua/Yeshua/Jesus is derived. They are not two persons.
johnny guitar
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There is NO name of YHWH in the NT.
FYI, besides being fully God the Word of John 1:1, He is also Fully human as a man ( the Flesh of John 1:14 ) like us and in order to be fully human as a man like us, He has to have both X & Y Chromosomes and God provided the needed Y chromosome for a Male child! Case closed! Yes His fully human flesh body ( with both X & Y chromosomes ) was prepared by God! He would Not have been human like us if He did NOT have that DNA! The Bible tells us He was a Man ( Son of Man ) and also God ( Son of God )!
Nonsense! You take so many days to respond. May be somebody is giving you wrong direction.
I didn't deny He wasn't human being. But I said He was human being with a difference from Adamic race as He came in his likeness but not exactness. We are born sinners with lustful desires within. Yeshua didn't have these desires within as He was Holy One born of the Holy Spirit. Nothing to do with Mary's Chromosomes. His Body saw no corruption and was chosen for Him.
You got to come out of your false doctrines and let go of your ego.
johnny guitar
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Jesus is The Holy One of Israel??
Wow! He must be God.
FYI again, He did NOT have those Sinful desires because He did NOT have a human father to pass on that Sin nature! The Power of the Most High ( God the Father ) created the needed " Y " chromosome that God the Holy Spirit placed in one of Mary's eggs when He came upon her as per Matt.1:20 in conjunction with Luke 1:34-35! Case closed on your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) of those posted scriptures! Nobody but the Holy Spirit provided me that information through His Scriptures that He inspired certain holy men to write, so we can read it after praying to Him for guidance of its CORRECT interpretation! I am a born again believer and He dwells in my temple/body as per 1 Cor.6:19, ever since I accepted the REAL Jesus Christ ( God-Man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8 ) into my heart as LORD & Savior! Your view remains 100% rebuked as per 2 Tim.3:16! So much for your nonsense! You should always pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit when you read His inspired scriptures!
Yeshua is the Only One of Israel as there is no god before Him.
Again nonsense Rodney! He only had a surrogate mother. That's how He didn't sin. He had nothing to do with the bodies of either Joseph or Mary.
Again your extra-Biblical Chromosomes of Mary. Chaper and verse please or you get lost! I got nothing to do with Satanic doctrines.
johnny guitar
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God is The Holy One of Israel.
There is! But you are following Christianity and that's why it's hidden from you. The very Name of Yahoshua contains YHWH.