Jesus The MAN is NOT God.

Kampioen

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I think according to your Trinitarian view, God and the Holy Spirit both refer to OMNIPRESENT Spirit. Correct me if I am mistaken.

That is true. The Trinity is omnipresent Spirit.

So what exactly does “SEND” in your statement mean?

Spiration? Or something else?

Ordered or utilized to go.

The Holy Spirit is omnipresent but localizes His power and attention and affects to the task at hand.

I believe the Holy Spirit was “sent” when TRANSCENDENT God became IMMANENT in the universe.

The immanence of the Holy Spirit is by default. The Holy Spirit is omni-aware, and when God created the universe, He was already omni-aware of it ie already there, omnipresent, automatically ie by default.
 

Fred

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the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him...There are persons who are not very humble and who are not the type of people who allow themselves to be taught ... Those will never accept the truth; Jehovah does not want such individuals among his people.
Acts 1:14
With one purpose all of these were persisting in prayer, together with some women and Mary the mother of Jesus and with his brothers. (New World Translation)

The Watchtower: Our last glimpse of Mary in the Bible does not show her being bowed down to and worshiped as "Our Lady", the "Blessed Virgin", but rather we see her in an upper room together with other faithful women and the apostles and with her other sons, there worshiping God and his Son Christ Jesus. (Acts 1:13, 14) (Mary, the Mother of Jesus, August 15, 1950, page 267, the boldface is mine)
 
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Tanachreader

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When the angel told Mary about her pregnancy, did he tell her that she was going to be pregnant with God?

Luke 1:31 And look! you will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you are to name him Jesus. 32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father, 33 and he will rule as King over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end to his Kingdom.” (...)
35(...) the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. And for that reason the one who is born will be called holy, God’s Son. ..."

That is the truth.
Why did His Father call His Son God.
To you is that truth.
And if God called Him God is He our God.
Please answer and we will see what is in you.
 

Yahchristian

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The Watchtower: Our last glimpse of Mary in the Bible does not show her being bowed down to and worshiped as "Our Lady", the "Blessed Virgin", but rather we see her in an upper room together with other faithful women and the apostles and with her other sons, there worshiping God and his Son Christ Jesus. (Acts 1:13, 14)

A majority of TRINITARIANS believe the highlighted text above.

Protestants are the only Trinitarians who disagree with the highlighted text above.

Do YOU agree with the highlighted text above?
 
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Fred

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A majority of TRINITARIANS believe the highlighted text above.

Protestants are the only Trinitarians who disagree with the highlighted text above.

Do YOU agree with the highlighted text above?

I agree with highlighted text above if this comes immediately before it -> " the Bible does not show"
 

Yahchristian

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I agree with highlighted text above if this comes immediately before it -> " the Bible does not show"

Good. I agree with you.

But a majority of TRINITARIANS believe Mary is being bowed down to and worshiped as "Our Lady", the "Blessed Virgin".

Those TRINITARIANS (who are a majority of Trinitarians) believe Mary never sinned, never died, is the mother of the Church, etc.

Whereas JW’s along with you and me believe the Bible does NOT show that.

You are aware of that fact, correct?
 

Fred

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Good. I agree with you.

But a majority of TRINITARIANS believe Mary is being bowed down to and worshiped as "Our Lady", the "Blessed Virgin".

Those TRINITARIANS (who are a majority of Trinitarians) believe Mary never sinned, never died, is the mother of the Church, etc.

Whereas JW’s along with you and me believe the Bible does NOT show that.

You are aware of that fact, correct?

Yes, I am aware of that.

 

Kampioen

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Good. I agree with you.

But a majority of TRINITARIANS believe Mary is being bowed down to and worshiped as "Our Lady", the "Blessed Virgin".

Those TRINITARIANS (who are a majority of Trinitarians) believe Mary never sinned, never died, is the mother of the Church, etc.

Whereas JW’s along with you and me believe the Bible does NOT show that.

You are aware of that fact, correct?
Protestants don't believe Scriptures teach bowing to Mary ... but Catholics believe in ongoing revelation so added it later.
 

Yahchristian

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Protestants don't believe Scriptures teach bowing to Mary ... but Catholics believe in ongoing revelation so added it later.

Correct.

But Protestants only make up about 37% of Trinitarians.

So over 60% of Trinitarians believe Mary lived a sinless life too.

You are aware of that fact, correct?
 

Kampioen

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Correct.

But Protestants only make up about 37% of Trinitarians.

So over 60% of Trinitarians believe Mary lived a sinless life too.

You are aware of that fact, correct?
And? They are wrong. And just being Trinitarian doesn't make someone a right with God.

How many non-trin bible believers believe the Bible correctly? The Jehovah's Witnesses have a Catholic-like organization that dictates their beliefs too.
 
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