My point was that someone was created and was present before the creation of the earth in Proverbs 8. I said higher Christology because that identifies someone before the Logos in J 1:1. You didn't take issue with my timeline and that was my main point.
I never said when they were created. I said they would have been present in the beginning when the earth was created.
If you are inferring that they could have been created in the beginning before the earth was created that flys in the face of @John Milton
who is adamant that there can be no creation event before J 1:3.
I don't see a difference. There are two agencies in that verse as well, things through and things in Christ.
The reference to him being a firstborn image in 15 suggests a beginning for him before this. I don't see it being comprehensive than J 1:1. What do you mean by that?
I ask because BDAG calls this the new creation.