Only applies to both the Father and the Son.
This has happened elsewhere (1 Kings 8:39; John 2:24-25; Rev. 2:23)
John 17:3 does not disprove Jesus is God
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This has happened elsewhere (1 Kings 8:39; John 2:24-25; Rev. 2:23)
JNelson
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Wrong, he knew the one God was the Father just like Jesus and that the Father was in Jesus just as Jesus told him the night before he was crucified.
JNelson
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Once again you leave out the Holy Spirit, why do you trinitarians neglect him so much if he is co-equal??
Jesus knows what the Father tells him and reveals to him.
The Father is in all believers (2 Cor. 6:16), but Christians should not refer to each other as "my God." Thus, your assertion fails big time.
Thus, what applies to God "alone" encompasses the Lord Jesus.
JNelson
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Yes but you know quite well that the Father was in Jesus to a completely different extent. Duet. 18:18 and John 14:10 are just two of many clear examples of this.
JNelson
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Jude 4 doesn’t say God it says Jesus so that trick doesn’t work
Which proves the Lord Jesus is God. Deut. 18:18 is cited in Acts 7 by Stephen. Jesus, being the prophet spoken of, is the proper recipient of prayer (Acts 7:59-60) - and only God is to be prayed (1 KIngs 8:38-39).
https://forums.carm.org/threads/only-pray-to-god.7370/
The only Master for every Christian refers to both (Acts 4:24; Jude 4).
JNelson
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Jesus is never prayed to my friend. We pray to God in Jesus’ name.
The prayer in Acts 1:24 is to Jesus. Even another poster who denies the Lord Jesus is God agrees.
See post 32
Matthew 6:9 does not forbid praying to the Lord Jesus
Because it proves the Lord Jesus is God. Since all three Trinitarian Persons are omniscient, if you pray to one it means all three will hear you prayer. But if you pray to one, who responds to your prayer? That Person or potentially another Person? I ask because Trinitarians state that the...
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Furthermore, this article from Biblical Unitarian also affirms the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer.
Can We "Pray" to Jesus Christ? What does the Bible say? | BiblicalUnitarian.com
There is a controversy among Christians who believe that Jesus is not God but the Son of God, about whether or not we can pray to Jesus. The only definitive...
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Yahchristian
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So just to clarify your Trinitarian view...
There is only ___ Master(s) for every Christian.
What number would you put in the blank?
I would put 1.
I already answered this. See post 4.
Both the Father and the Lord Jesus are the despotēs of every believer.
Quite the opposite. Both the Father and the Lord Jesus are the despotēs of every believer. TRINITARIANS... Do you believe there are TWO despotēs of every believer, or THREE despotēs of every believer? I say One. Bonus question... Do you believe there are three Almighties, or just one...
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Go bark up another tree.
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Yahchristian
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Your link simply directs us to someone else’s post.
I want to hear from YOU...
There is only ___ Master(s) for every Christian.
What number would you put in the blank?
I would put 1.
Yahchristian
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So you agree with Johnny Guitar that...
There are only 3 Masters for every Christian.
Let me know if you would like to change your answer.
What?
Yahchristian
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You said you agreed with Johnny Guitar’s answer...
So you agree with Johnny Guitar that...
There are only 3 Masters for every Christian.
Correct?
What are you talking about?
Yahchristian
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Johnny Guitar would put 3 in the blank...
There is only ___ Master(s) for every Christian.
What number would YOU put in the blank?
I would put 1.