John 5:18

John 5:18 states (in part): "He (Jesus) was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God". Three questions:

1) Who is "God" in this text?

2) Doesn't "equal" refer to two (or more)?

3) If so, how can Jesus be "equal to God" if he is God(, and without there being 'more than one God')?
 

Our Lord's God

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John 5:18 states (in part): "He (Jesus) was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God". Three questions:

1) Who is "God" in this text?

2) Doesn't "equal" refer to two (or more)?

3) If so, how can Jesus be "equal to God" if he is God(, and without there being 'more than one God')?

Yes, if you are equal TO God, by definition it means you are NOT God.
 

johnny guitar

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John 5:18 states (in part): "He (Jesus) was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God". Three questions:

1) Who is "God" in this text?

2) Doesn't "equal" refer to two (or more)?

3) If so, how can Jesus be "equal to God" if he is God(, and without there being 'more than one God')?
TWO Persons who are The ONE God.
Next question.................
 

johnny guitar

Active member
John 5:18 states (in part): "He (Jesus) was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God". Three questions:

1) Who is "God" in this text?

2) Doesn't "equal" refer to two (or more)?

3) If so, how can Jesus be "equal to God" if he is God(, and without there being 'more than one God')?
1)The Father
2)Yes.
3)ONE God, TWO Persons.
 

johnny guitar

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So in this text, God is "the Father", correct?

That means Jesus was "equal to his Father", correct?

But you just stated that "God" in the text is "the Father".

Thus, "God" in the phrase (one God) would mean "one Father"; therefore, when you say "one God two persons" you are arguing "one Father, two persons".
Correct.
Correct.
Yep, ONE Father, ONE Son. BOTH of whom are God.
 
Yep, we see TWO Persons in the passage, BOTH of whom are God.
Based on answer to my question is "God" in the verse: 'He was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God' "more then one person:
Yep, we see TWO Persons in the passage, BOTH of whom are God.
one must conclude that you believe Jesus was calling "father and son, both of whom are God' his own Father, making himself equal to "father and son, both of whom are God".
 
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Correct.
Correct.
Yep, ONE Father, ONE Son. BOTH of whom are God.
Please explain how you answered "Yep" to my statement: "Thus, "God" in the phrase (one God) would mean "one Father"; therefore, when you say "one God two persons" you are arguing "one Father, two persons", but then said "ONE Father, ONE Son. BOTH of whom are God"?
 

johnny guitar

Active member
Based on answer to my question is "God" in the verse: 'He was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God' "more then one person:

one must conclude that you believe Jesus was calling "father and son, both of whom are God' his own Father, making himself equal to "father and son, both of whom are God".
God The Father is ONE Person.
Final sentence is a STRAWMAN.
 

Tanachreader

Active member
Please explain how you answered "Yep" to my statement: "Thus, "God" in the phrase (one God) would mean "one Father"; therefore, when you say "one God two persons" you are arguing "one Father, two persons", but then said "ONE Father, ONE Son. BOTH of whom are God"?
The following say’s you won’t undertand.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
 
The following say’s you won’t undertand.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
This addressed nothing.
 
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