Justification from everlasting

newheart78

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The Elect were Justified in Christ before the world began !

Now this is True on Two grounds. #1 They are in Christ due to their election in Him Eph 1:4 and 1 Cor 1:30

It is because of him[God the Father] that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.NIV

And He chose them in Him before the foundation Eph 1:4

he chose us in him before the creation of the world [FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love

And we know that there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus Rom 8:1

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,

Therefore they are them that are Justified. Justification is the antithesis to condemnation as seen here Rom 5:18

Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.

John Gill writes of Rom 8:1 "them who are in Christ Jesus "





So the mere fact that some were Chosen by God in Christ before the foundation, necessitates their Eternal Justification before the foundation. You cant believe in Election, and deny Eternal Justification as some men do !198
Surely Amen !
 

brightfame52

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Accepted in Him equates to Justification in Him !

In line with the fact that Gods elect/chosen are Justified in Christ before the foundation as Per Eph 1:4, because they are in Him, and there's no condemnation to them in Him Rom 8:1

There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. esv

Just as clear is that those Chosen in Christ before the foundation, were as early accepted in Him the Beloved Eph 1:6

to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He has freely given us in the Beloved One,

This agrees with 2 Tim 1:9 that Grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began:

He has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,

And so they were accepted in the Beloved. Eph 1:6

6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

That word in the greek χαριτόω means:

I favor, bestow freely on.

properly, highly-favored because receptive to God's grace. 5487 (xaritóō) is used twice in the NT (Lk 1:28 and Eph 1:6), both times of God extending Himself to freely bestow grace (favor).

And of course we are Justified freely by His Grace Rom 3:24;Titus 3:7

And then the english word itself for accepted means:

to have a favorable opinion of, Approved.

Remember when God told cain that if he did good he would be accepted Gen 4:7

If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?


Well, Gods chosen are accepted in Christ before the foundation without doing anything good, it was by free grace ! And this Justified them before God !
 

newheart78

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Accepted in Him equates to Justification in Him !

In line with the fact that Gods elect/chosen are Justified in Christ before the foundation as Per Eph 1:4, because they are in Him, and there's no condemnation to them in Him Rom 8:1

There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. esv

Just as clear is that those Chosen in Christ before the foundation, were as early accepted in Him the Beloved Eph 1:6

to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He has freely given us in the Beloved One,

This agrees with 2 Tim 1:9 that Grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began:

He has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,

And so they were accepted in the Beloved. Eph 1:6

6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

That word in the greek χαριτόω means:

I favor, bestow freely on.

properly, highly-favored because receptive to God's grace. 5487 (xaritóō) is used twice in the NT (Lk 1:28 and Eph 1:6), both times of God extending Himself to freely bestow grace (favor).

And of course we are Justified freely by His Grace Rom 3:24;Titus 3:7

And then the english word itself for accepted means:

to have a favorable opinion of, Approved.

Remember when God told cain that if he did good he would be accepted Gen 4:7

If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?


Well, Gods chosen are accepted in Christ before the foundation without doing anything good, it was by free grace ! And this Justified them before God !

Amen Brother ! Praising God for His Favor and acceptance in bestowing Grace freely upon His Elect in Christ,
which Justified them [Us] even from Everlasting !
 

brightfame52

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Blessed with all spiritual blessings means eternal Justification !

Back in the book of Ephesians, Paul writes these words to Believers, Gods Chosen Eph 1:1-4

Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world,
that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

According to our election in Christ, God blessed the elect with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ. Some of these spiritual blessings we partake of only after we're born into the world, like regeneration and faith, both spiritual blessings, however Justification before the Mind of God is a Spiritual blessing we have in Christ as early as our election in Him was, before the foundation of the world.

Yes, all the elect like other men are born dead in sin, and are by nature children of wrath as others, but different from the non elect portion of mankind, they have been chosen in Christ before the foundation, and in Him have been given all spiritual blessings, such as Justification, and so unlike the non elect, they are still born Justified before God, even as they are born, by nature, children of wrath as others !
 

newheart78

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Blessed with all spiritual blessings means eternal Justification !

Back in the book of Ephesians, Paul writes these words to Believers, Gods Chosen Eph 1:1-4

Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world,
that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

According to our election in Christ, God blessed the elect with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ. Some of these spiritual blessings we partake of only after we're born into the world, like regeneration and faith, both spiritual blessings, however Justification before the Mind of God is a Spiritual blessing we have in Christ as early as our election in Him was, before the foundation of the world.

Yes, all the elect like other men are born dead in sin, and are by nature children of wrath as others, but different from the non elect portion of mankind, they have been chosen in Christ before the foundation, and in Him have been given all spiritual blessings, such as Justification, and so unlike the non elect, they are still born Justified before God, even as they are born, by nature, children of wrath as others !
Amen Brother, exactly !
 

brightfame52

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Accepted in Him equates to Justification in Him !

In line with the fact that Gods elect/chosen are Justified in Christ before the foundation as Per Eph 1:4, because they are in Him, and there's no condemnation to them in Him Rom 8:1

There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. esv

Just as clear is that those Chosen in Christ before the foundation, were as early accepted in Him the Beloved Eph 1:6

to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He has freely given us in the Beloved One,

This agrees with 2 Tim 1:9 that Grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began:

He has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,

And so they were accepted in the Beloved. Eph 1:6

6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

That word in the greek χαριτόω means:

I favor, bestow freely on.

properly, highly-favored because receptive to God's grace. 5487 (xaritóō) is used twice in the NT (Lk 1:28 and Eph 1:6), both times of God extending Himself to freely bestow grace (favor).

And of course we are Justified freely by His Grace Rom 3:24;Titus 3:7

And then the english word itself for accepted means:

to have a favorable opinion of, Approved.

Remember when God told cain that if he did good he would be accepted Gen 4:7

If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?


Well, Gods chosen are accepted in Christ before the foundation without doing anything good, it was by free grace ! And this Justified them before God !
 

brightfame52

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2 Cor 5:19 can very well be a scripture on Eternal Justification, I believe it is, and therefore a vital part of the message of reconciliation, or the word of reconciliation 2 Cor 5:19

That is, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

That word in en as in Christ can sometimes be translated with, and so can be rendered :", that God was with Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them.

This could very well be the transaction agreement of Suretyship, when before the foundation, God the Father made His Son an Surety of an Better Covenant, which was the Everlasting Covenant Heb 13:20

Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Now its hard to deny that an Everlasting Covenant was made regarding the blood of Christ. And we know that His Blood shed was determined before the foundation of the world when we consider these two scriptures #1 Rev 13:8

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

# 2 1 Pet 1:20

Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world
, but was manifest in these last times for you,

I believe this has to do with being pre-appointed the redeemer of Gods elect before the foundation. This pre-appointment I believe was in establishing the Surety engagement of Christ, wherein the sins of Gods elect would be charged to Him, and Suretyship Righteousness and Obedience would be charged to the Elect, so Vs 21 of 2 Cor 5:21 supplements Vs 19 !
 

brightfame52

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Gods Eternal Purpose/will in Christ demands Eternal Justification of His Chosen !

Eph 1:7-11

In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

This purpose is the same purpose as that Paul will write of later in this same letter Eph 3:11

According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

This purposed involved the forgiveness of sins Eph 1:7. This informs us that its always been the eternal purpose of God to forgive the sins of His people in Christ according to the riches of His Grace. Its always been from everlasting, not to punish His Chosen for their sins, but to punish their sins in the person of Christ. This is why David wrote of an mercy from everlasting to everlasting Ps 103:17

But the mercy of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

This is why Christ was set forth, foreordained before the foundation in this redemptive purpose 1 Pet 1:18-20

Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you

Rom 3:24-25

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Those words "set forth" is the greek word protithémi which means:

I purpose, design beforehand, determine.205

"to place, set") – properly, to place before, setting forth in advance to achieve a particular purpose.

("to purpose") is the root of 4286 /próthesis ("God's providence, eternal purpose)

The Purpose of God to remit the sins of His people through Christ was set forth from the beginning, because it His Eternal will to do so, by imputing the sins of His people unto Christ. All the Old Testament Saints were given Faith in His blood.

And since Gods will to forgive the sins of His People according to His Eternal Redemptive Purpose in Christ, Their Justification from their sins was from the establishment of that same Eternal Purpose !
 

brightfame52

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By the way, I'm deeply indebted to God for His servant John Gill for his piece on Eternal Justification:
http://www.mountzionpbc.org/Index/index04.htm

With that stated I quote him here:

It deserves regard and attention, that the saints under the Old Testament, were justified by the same righteousness of Christ, as those under the New, and that before the sacrifice was offered up, the satisfaction given, and the everlasting righteousness brought in; for Christ's blood was shed for the remission of sins that were past, and his death was for the redemption of transgressions under the first Testament, #Ro 3:25 Heb 9:15.Now if God could, and actually did, justify some, three or four thousand years before the righteousness of Christ was actually wrought out, taking his Son's word and bond as their Surety, and in a view of his future righteousness; why could he not, and why may it not be thought he did, justify all his elect from eternity, upon the word and bond of their Surety, and on the basis of his future righteousness, which he had engaged to work out, and which he full well knew he would most certainly work out? and if there is no difficulty in conceiving of the one, there can be none in conceiving of the other.

Basically the point here is that if God Justified the OT Believers based upon the blood of Christ, many many centuries prior to His incarnation, then why doubt that He justified the elect from eternity based upon the blood of Christ that would be shed for them in time. Certainly He could trust His Son to come into the World and shed His blood of the everlasting covenant!
 

newheart78

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By the way, I'm deeply indebted to God for His servant John Gill for his piece on Eternal Justification:
http://www.mountzionpbc.org/Index/index04.htm

With that stated I quote him here:



Basically the point here is that if God Justified the OT Believers based upon the blood of Christ, many many centuries prior to His incarnation, then why doubt that He justified the elect from eternity based upon the blood of Christ that would be shed for them in time. Certainly He could trust His Son to come into the World and shed His blood of the everlasting covenant!
Most assuredly Brother !
 

brightfame52

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Being Justified by His Blood Rom 5:9 means Justification by God from the foundation of the World. Why and how can that be ? Because from God's Eternal Purpose and perspective Christ was slain from the foundation of the World Rev 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Rev 5:9

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

So Christ being slain denotes His Blood which denotes Justification by His Blood Rom 5:9

Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
 

newheart78

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Being Justified by His Blood Rom 5:9 means Justification by God from the foundation of the World. Why and how can that be ? Because from God's Eternal Purpose and perspective Christ was slain from the foundation of the World Rev 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Rev 5:9

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

So Christ being slain denotes His Blood which denotes Justification by His Blood Rom 5:9

Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Amen for sure !
 

brightfame52

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Due to the fact that in the mind and purpose of God, Christ was slain from the foundation of the World, it must be the sins of the Elect in His mind and purpose had been imputed upon Him, then must the Elect have been Justified from their sins from the foundation.
 

newheart78

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Due to the fact that in the mind and purpose of God, Christ was slain from the foundation of the World, it must be the sins of the Elect in His mind and purpose had been imputed upon Him, then must the Elect have been Justified from their sins from the foundation.
Absolutely True Brother, the Elect were Saved / Justified according to God's Eternal Purpose in their Surety Christ Jesus, according to the Everlasting Covenant of Grace.
 

brightfame52

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Contending for Justification from Eternity for Gods Elect !

Now Justification is totally of God Rom 8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Yes it emanates from His Mind ! God is Eternal Deut 33:27

27 The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.214

Its an Act/Work of His Eternal Mind premised upon the Lamb slain from the foundation Rev 13:8;1 Pet 1: 20, and all His Works are known from the beginning Acts 15:18

18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

Acts of God Mind are Eternal and Immutable Ps 33:11

11 The counsel of the Lord standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.
 

brightfame52

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Contending for Justification from Eternity for Gods Elect !2

Redemption by the Lamb was conceived in the Mind of God before the foundation 1 Pet 1:18-20

18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

And the elect are Justified through the redemption that is in the Lamb Christ Jesus Rom 3:24

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
 

brightfame52

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Eph 1:6 Accepted in the Beloved !

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace
, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

This verse speaks to Eternal Justification, or Justification from before the foundation. Its to the Praise of the Glory of Gods Grace that those Chosen in the Beloved before the foundation Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

That they were accepted in Him as Early.

To be accepted of God is inclusive of Justifciation. Its God bestowing His Divine Approval and Favor upon one in Christ. Thats why they are freely Justified by Grace Rom 3:24

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
 

brightfame52

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Because in the Purpose of God Christ was slain for the sins of those whose names had been written in the Lambs Book of Life Rev 13:8228

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Christ had been pre-appointed to be slain 1 Pet 1:20

20 was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Hence, all the Chosen of God were Justified in Christ from the time of Christ's appointment to be their redeemer, He became their Surety, so that no sin of theirs would be charged to their account, but to His, and that's why He came on the earth, by Divine Appointment ! And this Justification is that Justification of Life Rom 5:18 because they're names are written in the Book of Life !
 
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