Justification from everlasting

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TomFL said:
I am going to assume you are capable of reading

Galatians 2:16 (ESV)
16 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

What does it say ?

What occurred that they were justified ?
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Thank You Brother, praising God for that !
 
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newheart78 said:
False !
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I am going to assume you are capable of reading

Galatians 2:16 (ESV)
16 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

What does it say ?

What occurred that they were justified ?
 
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TomFL said:
I am going to assume you are capable of reading

Galatians 2:16 (ESV)
16 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

What does it say ?

What occurred that they were justified ?
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They don’t know what faith is Tom.
 
Carbon

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brightfame52 said:
Justification is a external act of God [upon the sinner] as a Judge, acting in a Court of Justice on guilty sinners, and not the internal work of the Spirit on the heart as in 2 Thess 2:13. God is acting upon the principal of Justice, according to His Law, He Justifies the Ungodly, and those be the Elect of God. This Justification is not based upon having been renewed by the Spirit as per Titus 3:5, nor because they have repented or believed, nor any such obedience of theirs, but solely on the Obedience and Blood of Christ. Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Rom 8:33-34

33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
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Yep, as I thought. Your not a hyper Calvinist, your nothing to do with Calvinism.
Your hyper something for sure though
 
Carbon

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Simpletruther said:
The scripture you quoted proves you wrong. All men were condemned in Adam.

And it's nonsense logically. For there would be no need for a justification if one were never condemned to start with.
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Unless you understand the secret hidden truths that only a select few have, which are the hidden hypers, ..... communication is futile
 
Carbon

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As far as God is concerned, redemption is a done deal! As far as man, all things are given at salvation and through the gift of faith, we believe unto salvation and are justified.

your teaching man is born sinless, no original sin is not even a Biblical Christian belief! Yes, Christ has paid the price for His elect, but all the benefits are not applied until God regenerates the individual.


brightflame, you do not understand these things, you think you do, but you really do not.
 
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Carbon said:
As far as God is concerned, redemption is a done deal! As far as man, all things are given at salvation and through the gift of faith, we believe unto salvation and are justified.

your teaching man is born sinless, no original sin is not even a Biblical Christian belief! Yes, Christ has paid the price for His elect, but all the benefits are not applied until God regenerates the individual.


brightflame, you do not understand these things, you think you do, but you really do not.
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Amen brother ! :)
 
preacher4truth

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TomFL said:
you think ?

Fact is the poster ignored a verse wqhich quite clearly is contrary to his theology

and it is doubtful he even considered it
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Yes, he is like you in that, plus, you both pit Scripture against Scripture. Then you gave a low blow, so you're in "the lead" for now.
 
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