Why do you keep ignoring all the other verses I have quoted from Isaiah, where God is judging rulers? Don't you know that they are called "gods" in Ps. 82 because God appointed them and they rule in His place, among His people?
That could even be applied to Jesus Christ. How does that make them any less than real gods? Any less deified? Any less part of the Divine Council?
Bonnie--they are real gods--and all the king's horses, and all the king's men--can't restore the damage that does to your theology.
And don't you know that throughout its long history, Israel/Judah went whoring after other gods, worshiping them, instead of YHWH, and sometimes mixing in the worship of both?
How does that render them any less than real gods?
But does whoring after other gods prove those gods exist? Don't you remember, that the OT says that the "gods of the nations are IDOLS?" Do idols really exist, except in people's minds?
The Divine Council was a reality:
Psalm 82:1---English Standard Version
1 God has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:
Do you not know that the NRSV is the only English translation that I am aware of, that has "gods" in vs. 8?
So--should we dust off the "as far as it's translated correctly" criticism--and dress it in white clothes for you?
As the scholars now know--some of the earliest manuscripts have heavenly beings as the gods--not the sons of Israel. Someone changed it. And it is a major change.
Bonnie--the reason the NRSV has the change--is because it's a recent translation--and the information has just become available and confirmed-- in the last few years of scholarly work. The verdict is in--the text has been altered. The verse should read--gods, or--"sons of God".
Can you see the footnote c that is linked? Whom is this entire song about? Isn't it about God's covenant people, the Israelites? Also, do you not know what Paul wrote to the Athenians, in Acts 17? Which echo this song?
Do you see the bolded part? Isn't that very similar to what is in Deut. 32, vs. 7-9?
Would you like to see what another scholar says about this Deut. 32:8 verse?
And don't you know what Jesus is saying in John 10? Don't you remember what we have written here about this? Don't you remember what is written in this link, that I have posted earlier on this board? And that HE was basically saying "you didn't get your BVD's in a bunch when the psalmist called them "gods", but you do when I call myself the Son of God and PROVED who I am by the works that I have done"? And by this, HE was accusing THEM of judging falsely, just as the "gods" in Ps. 82 did?
Do YOU think Jesus believed there were other true Gods in the universe? More than one?
I'm not sure how you are relating this to the reality of the Divine Council--or the reality the earlier manuscripts have "sons of God"--not "sons of Israel"--and heavenly beings, not earthly, and "heavens"--not "nations".
Those are major changes--and no scholar can deny that---- now that the manuscripts have been translated--and are now available to peruse.