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Christian

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That's a good question. I would understand like chosen TO BE in Him. Granted to be is not in the text.
Do you understand the other side of this where its difficult to understand how a person who doesn't exist can be in Him ?

I think this is where the disconnect is between both sides.
 

Synergy

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True. Whatever it is it occurs from the foundation of the world and its God doing the choosing
I am shocked that you as a Calvinist would say that. Election is the bread and butter doctrine for all Calvinists! We had several discussions on election and now you say that?
 

Christian

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Chosen. Everyone chosen will be saved. Every single one.
Are you saying that you were saved before creation or when you believed and trusted in Christ as your Lord and Savior ?

Acts 16:31
They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”
 

Christian

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No kidding.

We are chosen in Him before the foundation of the world.
Ephesians 1:4
For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.

The choosing is for the purpose above would you agree ?

What does that mean to you ?
 

Christian

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And lets not forget the purpose above in conjunction with this below

Ephesians 1:13-14
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
 

Reformedguy

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Ephesians 1:4
For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.

The choosing is for the purpose above would you agree ?

What does that mean to you ?
I would. The disagreement is the basis for God's choice in the first place right?
 
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