Legal authorization and consent form for abortions

[Temujin]

Which agrees with my point that mainstream in society doesnt make it right. Therefore your stand on mainstream is hardly convincing.

Try reading the rest of my post, instead of leaping in with a kneejerk reaction to the first sentence.

It seems that I was wrong that misrepresentation is your only tactic. You have now reverted to quote mining tiny fragments of posts in the hope that the overall coherence of the post as a whole will be lost. It won't work. In the unlikely event than anyone else is bored enough to be reading any of this, it will be quite clear which argument is the more convincing, and also just how desperate your floundering has become.

 

[BMS]

This post shows an unexpected degree of self-awareness. Well done. At least you recognise that your thinking is distorted.

Well we can swap personal criticisms all day long.

 

[Temujin]

Well we can swap personal criticisms all day long.

But only I can construct a valid and coherent argument it seems.

 

[BMS]

Try reading the rest of my post, instead of leaping in with a kneejerk reaction to the first sentence.

Not before we examine why you cited mainstream opinion when we have already disagreed on this.

 

[BMS]

But only I can construct a valid and coherent argument it seems.

Or not as the reality actually is. You cant construct as valid and coherent argument which is why you resorted to personal opinion. Its the evidence that needs to be examined and reasoned, not what some identity group or law or media you happen to agree with.

 

[Temujin]

Not before we examine why you cited mainstream opinion when we have already disagreed on this.

Which I do in the rest of the post that you ignored. Quote mining is dishonest.

 

[Temujin]

Or not as the reality actually is. You cant construct as valid and coherent argument which is why you resorted to personal opinion. Its the evidence that needs to be examined and reasoned, not what some identity group or law or media you happen to agree with.

Lol! This is hilarious. You have produced nothing BUT personal opinion. That's all you have. I have quoted laws, referenced societal norms, science, history and legislation. You have nothing.

 

[BMS]

Which I do in the rest of the post that you ignored. Quote mining is dishonest.

So your points about the majority and mainstream are not particularly useful.

 

[BMS]

Lol! This is hilarious. You have produced nothing BUT personal opinion. That's all you have. I have quoted laws, referenced societal norms, science, history and legislation. You have nothing.

But you have produced no evidence or reasoning except what the law currently is, or what majorities think.
The evidence is the human being in the womb is the same entity as the child and as the adult. So no reason to abort it because you dont consider it viable at any stage for your own personal reasons. That the mother carries the human being through gestation is how the specied reproduces, and cant be changed because you object to the inconvenience.

 

[Temujin]

So your points about the majority and mainstream are not particularly useful.

They are, if you bother to include the rest of my post which you dishonestly snipped.

 

[Temujin]

But you have produced no evidence or reasoning except what the law currently is, or what majorities think.

What other evidence is there? What have you produced?

The evidence is the human being in the womb is the same entity as the child and as the adult.

Completely Irrelevant and not in dispute.

So no reason to abort it because you dont consider it viable at any stage for your own personal reasons. That the mother carries the human being through gestation is how the specied reproduces, and cant be changed because you object to the inconvenience.

What a silly remark. I am male and in my sixties. I am not inconvenienced by pregnancy in the slightest. Once again you are reduced to pathetic mind-reading rather than addressing the actual facts or the actual reasons for my position which have been expressed quite clearly. Are you always this dishonest?

 

[BMS]

They are, if you bother to include the rest of my post which you dishonestly snipped.

They are of limited use because the majority arent always right, and not because you mistakenly believe they bother me. You need to start addressing the point made instead of personal attacks against the other poster.

 

[Temujin]

They are of limited use because the majority arent always right, and not because you mistakenly believe they bother me. You need to start addressing the point made instead of personal attacks against the other poster.

If you had bothered to read what I wrote, you would have seen that I acknowledged this in my original post. This is getting tedious.

 

[BMS]

What other evidence is there? What have you produced? Completely Irrelevant and not in dispute.
What a silly remark. I am male and in my sixties. I am not inconvenienced by pregnancy in the slightest. Once again you are reduced to pathetic mind-reading rather than addressing the actual facts or the actual reasons for my position which have been expressed quite clearly. Are you always this dishonest?

That doesnt address the point I made, rather it just you and your feelings again. Besides what do you mean by male? Male is the human being with XY chromosomes, a male anatomy and produces sperm for reproduction, yet you call some men, women and female. Since you dont evidence based reality you cant communicate your points.

 

[BMS]

If you had bothered to read what I wrote, you would have seen that I acknowledged this in my original post. This is getting tedious.

Ok so dont post about the currents state of the law or what the majority think when a moral or a piece of evidence is presented to you.

 

[Temujin]

That doesnt address the point I made, rather it just you and your feelings again. Besides what do you mean by male? Male is the human being with XY chromosomes, a male anatomy and produces sperm for reproduction, yet you call some men, women and female. Since you dont evidence based reality you cant communicate your points.

I didn't address your point because it is irrelevant. You are wittering on about gender. Pregnancy is biological. It concerns sex.

 

[BMS]

I didn't address your point because it is irrelevant. You are wittering on about gender. Pregnancy is biological. It concerns sex.

Its the biological sex you are confused about and which I asked you to clarify.

Posters cant debate with you if we cant use evidence based reasoning

 

[Temujin]

Ok so dont post about the currents state of the law or what the majority think when a moral or a piece of evidence is presented to you.

You don't get to tell me what to do. If I want to produce real evidence to refute your silly, pretentious fantasies, I will do so. Just as I have been doing.

 

[Temujin]

Its the biological sex you are confused about and which I asked you to clarify.

Posters cant debate with you if we cant use evidence based reasoning

Not confused at all. Once again your fabled mind-reading powers let you down. Disagreeing with you on a subject does not equal being confused. It is merely pointing out your own bewildered disconnect with reality.

 

[BMS]

You don't get to tell me what to do. If I want to produce real evidence to refute your silly, pretentious fantasies, I will do so. Just as I have been doing.

On the contrary you are free to post your baseless feelings, my point is you cant debae with them. Let me repeat. I know what the abortion laws are around the world, and I know you like the UK ones.
I am arguing those laws including the UK are wrong.
Now, the human being IS killed in pro-choice abortion and so fae all you have presented in support of that is that you dont consider the human being in the womb viable enough, that it cant be called a person, and that most laws are in line with that, albeit they are based on more subjective criteria.
Not at all.convincing.