Losing Salvation

And that is something one will never find in scripture.
Just as you don't find Scripture alone in Scripture. God gave gifts of the Holy Spirit to His people in order His Church remains a living breathing Church and not just a 'religion of the book'.
 
You never specified one way or the other. The Church has no teaching on who is damned and who is saved. Only that the ordinary means Christ uses to dispense the grace needed for salvation is through the Sacrament.
That is not what the op is about. But like usual you are answering the question you would like asked. It is about can someone lose their salvation.
 
Just as you don't find Scripture alone in Scripture. God gave gifts of the Holy Spirit to His people in order His Church remains a living breathing Church and not just a 'religion of the book'.
There is a lot of support for scripture alone but nothing for RCs false beliefs. Your institution only passes one scriptural test and that is the bad tree. Yep you institution is the religion of bad leaders. Great I much prefer the scriptures.
 
This could have been a great topic to discuss but NO as normal RCs do not answer the question in the op and then divert off topic. And it took less than a page. Congratulations RCs you prove that the ops are meaningless to them.
 
The Catechism is a 'tool' of teaching but we are a 3 legged stool of Scripture, Tradition and the living Magisterium.
LOL you ignore scripture, add to scripture, go beyond scripture. So one leg is cut off.
Next tradition the only tradition that counts is the one that the apostles understood Jewish tradition, not false man made traditions. Oh another leg is gone.
Then that leaves the dead magisterium, they are dead because they have evil fruits, most of them ignored the command to expose sin, they ignored the command not to harm the sheep, they teach false doctrines. BANG third leg gone.
 
But do not forget that your Magisterium claims that it is the sole interpreter of both Scripture and Tradition. Ergo...
The Magisterium is not just a single person or a closed group. It is informed by those with theological expertise, those with historical expertise, those with worldly expertise, those with the gift of discernment, the charisms of prayer, teaching, service etc. involved in ministering to the world. This is the purpose of the synodal Church. That the Magisterium will be even more blessed by a bigger picture.
 
The Magisterium is not just a single person or a closed group. It is informed by those with theological expertise, those with historical expertise, those with worldly expertise, those with the gift of discernment, the charisms of prayer, teaching, service etc. involved in ministering to the world. This is the purpose of the synodal Church. That the Magisterium will be even more blessed by a bigger picture.
Oh no as if we don't know that is more than one person. But the word magisterium is singular. It is informed by false doctrines, men who have allowed the sheep to be harmed, those into philosophies, yep we know they all have worldly expertise, no gift of discernment at all, I am laughing at the charisms and they do not minister to the world.

The magisterium if it was so gifted would have stood up to their evil fruit instead of hiding it for a start, it is was so gifted it would teach true doctrines and not false one, if it was so gifted it would never have allowed children to be harmed I mean really how is that ministering to the world, it actually turned the world to become more secular and it brought Jesus' name into disrepute.
 
Just as you don't find Scripture alone in Scripture. God gave gifts of the Holy Spirit to His people in order His Church remains a living breathing Church and not just a 'religion of the book'.
I should also point out our faith is not a "religion of the book" but a real, personal relationship with Jesus Christ that no religious belief system can replace.
 
The Magisterium is not just a single person or a closed group. It is informed by those with theological expertise, those with historical expertise, those with worldly expertise, those with the gift of discernment, the charisms of prayer, teaching, service etc. involved in ministering to the world. This is the purpose of the synodal Church. That the Magisterium will be even more blessed by a bigger picture.
So?
 
Just as you don't find Scripture alone in Scripture. God gave gifts of the Holy Spirit to His people in order His Church remains a living breathing Church and not just a 'religion of the book'.
Yes, but only if the "church" aligns WITH the book. When it goes beyond what the BOOK teaches, then it is not a "church". It is then only man made garbage and is worthless! The BOOK is the standard. The Holy Spirit WROTE the book. And is the final say.
 
You never specified one way or the other. The Church has no teaching on who is damned and who is saved. Only that the ordinary means Christ uses to dispense the grace needed for salvation is through the Sacrament.
Jesus answered him, “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless a person is born again [reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, sanctified], he cannot [ever] see and experience the kingdom of God.” John 3:3
 
The Magisterium is not just a single person or a closed group. It is informed by those with theological expertise, those with historical expertise, those with worldly expertise, those with the gift of discernment, the charisms of prayer, teaching, service etc. involved in ministering to the world. This is the purpose of the synodal Church. That the Magisterium will be even more blessed by a bigger picture.
If that were true, they wouldn't be teaching false doctrines and a perverted gospel!
 
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