Lots of political news this morning...

Furion

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Los of atheists going around saying Merry Christmas.

And a merry festivus to you, you cranky grievance man.
 

J regia

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Temujin

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Slander
Christmas notices the biggest event for all mankind ever.
A great profit shall come to the land.

If you mean the birth of Jesus, you are talking nonsense. The church tried to hijack an ancient midwinter festival for Christian purposes. Despite a valiant effort over many centuries, the secular feasting and celebration has won out. You are welcome to tag your religious fairy tale to the mix. It adds flavour. But if you think that the true meaning of Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Christ, then for most people you are sadly mistaken.
 

Carol

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A great profit shall come to the land.

If you mean the birth of Jesus, you are talking nonsense. The church tried to hijack an ancient midwinter festival for Christian purposes. Despite a valiant effort over many centuries, the secular feasting and celebration has won out. You are welcome to tag your religious fairy tale to the mix. It adds flavour. But if you think that the true meaning of Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Christ, then for most people you are sadly mistaken.

You think the roots are pagan. I say they're branches. Or "suckers" would probably be a better word.
 

vibise

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Terrorist bombs, Sydney Powell's shadowy kraken witness...

Merry Christmas.
Well, so far there is no real information on the perpetrator(s) of the Nashville bombing or their motivation, so it is premature to call this an act of terrorism.

As for Powell's shady witness, here are the gob-smacking details:


It is a national embarrassment that Trump's arguments about the election have devolved to this.

Anyway, hope everyone had a wonderful Xmas.
 

Carol

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Well, so far there is no real information on the perpetrator(s) of the Nashville bombing or their motivation, so it is premature to call this an act of terrorism.

As for Powell's shady witness, here are the gob-smacking details:


It is a national embarrassment that Trump's arguments about the election have devolved to this.

Anyway, hope everyone had a wonderful Xmas.

Is Sidney back on the team?

All this sensationalism. Still, there were violations to state election laws and the Constitution. And lots of suspicious goings on.
 

vibise

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Is Sidney back on the team?

All this sensationalism. Still, there were violations to state election laws and the Constitution. And lots of suspicious goings on.
From the article I linked:

Trump’s legal team distanced itself from Powell last month after she falsely claimed Republican state officials took bribes to rig the election. But she has visited the White House three times in the past week, once to participate in an Oval Office meeting. Trump has weighed naming Powell a special counsel to investigate the election, according to previous reports.

The article states that Powell is taking 4 of the cases she lost on the state level and consolidating them to send to the Supreme Court.

You can have all the "suspicions" you want, but if you can't produce evidence that supports a legal case, you have nothing actionable.
 

Carol

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A few, but not many - and the ones we know about are being prosecuted. Not a big deal

Your opinion.
I haven't heard SS Benson's being prosecuted. But I've about given up trying to find news about what's going on just here in Michigan let alone the other states.

Like what?

The most obvious - PA judges are not lawmakers.

That's subjective. What in particular makes you suspect wrong doing?

I got up before dawn Nov 4th to see people being escorted out of TCF Center, windows being covered, report of a 4 am ballot dump and interviews with a few of the people outside. Since then the list has gotten very long....
 

Whateverman

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Your opinion.
No, this is a fact. The violations of state laws we know of are few and far between, and they're being prosecuted. If something is not being prosecuted, that's because either no violation has occurred, or because there isn't enough evidence to prove one did.

And before you dismiss this as "opinion", keep in mind that Republicans have been scrambling to prosecute everything they can find. IF they could prosecute whichever instance of voter fraud you're thinking of, they would.

The most obvious - PA judges are not lawmakers.
PA judges not being lawmakers doesn't imply anything unconstitutional taking place. Please be more specific.

And again, I'll remind you that Republicans are frantic to bring anything they can to court. If they could prove PA judges were acting unconstitutionally, they would have done so weeks ago.

I got up before dawn Nov 4th to see people being escorted out of TCF Center, windows being covered, report of a 4 am ballot dump and interviews with a few of the people outside. Since then the list has gotten very long....
Many of the things you've listed have all been explained. Ballot dumps are generally the fault of state Republicans who insisted that vote counting couldn't begin until midnight; covered windows are often to keep the public and the media from distracting election workers (who had both Democrat and Republican observers present to watch over the activity). As for people being "escorted" out of election facilities, I haven't heard anything like that, but I don't doubt it either. I guess I don't know whether that sounds suspicious or not.

In general, the things you're listing have been complained about before, and have been explained many times already. It sounds like you don't accept the explanations, which is obviously your right - but it only takes a little time to realize that complaints like yours have been voiced and answered. Choosing to remain suspicious doesn't mean your suspicions are justified.
 
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