Luddites try to interfere with modern medical technology in the abortion chambers.

Authentic Nouveau

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The modern sonogram technology shows us the mom has a human baby in utero.

The heart monitor is an electronic sensor which displays the heart rate. They watch it to see when the baby has been killed before chopping the baby into parts for extraction. It is against the law to deliver a baby and kill it outside the womb.

So, you have no idea what a Luddite is. I'll add that to the list.

a person opposed to new technology or ways of working.

Luddites oppose the sonogram and do NOT want to have the mom watch it.

Inventors

Ian Donald and engineer Tom Brown

OB doc Ian Donald was vehemently anti abortion. Barbaric
 

Temujin

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Modern ultrasound technology is able to tell if the foetus is well formed or has abnormalities. It is an essential tool for some women to decide whether or not to have an abortion. Medical technical advances are always welcome. Of course, they should not be used to bully or browbeat vulnerable women into making life changing decisions.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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· Planned Parenthood has a long history of opposing informed consent laws that would allow a woman to see an ultrasound.

Planned Parenthood is Luddite.
 

BMS

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Key point: its against the law to deliver a baby and kill it outside the womb.

So I would like to ask the pro-death pro-choicers, what is it called half way out if the womb when its being born? A feby☺
A batus?

A transbaby? a cisfoetus?

I have thrown in these questions because they havent yet addressed the OP key point and we cant expect they will
 

Temujin

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Key point: its against the law to deliver a baby and kill it outside the womb.

So I would like to ask the pro-death pro-choicers, what is it called half way out if the womb when its being born? A feby☺
A batus?

A transbaby? a cisfoetus?

I have thrown in these questions because they havent yet addressed the OP key point and we cant expect they will
As a strictly legal point it is the first breath that defines a baby and a person. As far as medical terminology goes, I don't know, and don't think it matters. It isn't pro-choice that obsessed over labels.
 

BMS

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As a strictly legal point it is the first breath that defines a baby and a person. As far as medical terminology goes, I don't know, and don't think it matters. It isn't pro-choice that obsessed over labels.
Not according to some countries laws. Remember you aren't the only one on the planet, there are other countries as well. The reality isn't changed by a country's particular law you know, if you lived in another country you would have to abide by their laws.
But if we got the law changed so pro-choice abortion was illegal, you would of course approve, or is your 'legality' bit just playing devil's advocate?

The reason I asked about the terms and labels is because you are obsessed over labels, as you have just shown again in your response here.

So the unborn human is murdered in pro-choice abortion, seeing as you arent obsessed over labels such as fetus.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Not according to some countries laws. Remember you aren't the only one on the planet, there are other countries as well. The reality isn't changed by a country's particular law you know, if you lived in another country you would have to abide by their laws.
But if we got the law changed so pro-choice abortion was illegal, you would of course approve, or is your 'legality' bit just playing devil's advocate?

The reason I asked about the terms and labels is because you are obsessed over labels, as you have just shown again in your response here.

So the unborn human is murdered in pro-choice abortion, seeing as you arent obsessed over labels such as fetus.
The English word for fetus is offspring.

Just a reminder, they don't throw a hissy fit when people say womb instead of uterus.
During a C-section, there are 6-8 and even as many as 10 in the operating rooms if there are students and we have never seen any neurotic obsessions against our use of "BABY" in that setting.

Anesthesiologist
Nurse anesthetist
Nurse anesthetist from delivery rooms
Circulating nurse
scrub tech
RN from newborn Nursery
RN from Labor
OB Doc
OB resident

Mother
Baby

If the anesthesiologist does a block, the mom is awake and can hear what they say.

Technology is the reason sometimes they schedule to do a 'section. We use scanning to see CPD Cephalo pelvic disproportion. and other complications.

I post from my credentials. The Jailor is restricted to PP talking points.
 
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Authentic Nouveau

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The English word for fetus is offspring.

Just a reminder, they don't throw a hissy fit when people say womb instead of uterus.
During a C-section, there are 6-8 and even as many as 10 in the operating rooms if there are students and we have never seen any neurotic obsessions against our use of "BABY" in that setting.

Anesthesiologist
Nurse anesthetist
Nurse anesthetist from delivery rooms
Circulating nurse
scrub tech
RN from newborn Nursery
RN from Labor
OB Doc
OB resident

Mother
Baby

If the anesthesiologist does a block, the mom is awake and can hear what they say.

Technology is the reason sometimes they schedule to do a 'section. We use scanning to see CPD Cephalo pelvic disproportion. and other complications.

I post from my credentials. The Jailor is restricted to PP talking points.
The pro-deather realm is the abortion chambers. They don't resemble hospital spaces. Abortion chambers speak a different language.
 

BMS

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Quite right. The English word for fetus is foetus
Quite wrong. Your response here is about spelling, not meaning. I referred to your idea that words mean different thing to different people.

NB I know all about it so you don't need to explain; when the Biblical text says stuff you don't like you pretend it doesn't mean what is says, though you assume all other discussion is ok
 

Temujin

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Latin. Luddites also don't study Latin.
Gosh. Are you suggesting that the English word"foetus" (or fetus) is adapted from the Latin? What about pyjama, or bungalow? Or beef and mutton? English is full of words appropriated from other languages. Sometimes the meaning is retained, sometimes it is changed or adapted. What the word meant in its original meaning is not am accurate guide to its definition in English.

Incidentally, I did study Latin at school, which is why, unlike you, I am capable of parsing a sentence.
 
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